[Claret]

When you say it, it sounds like you are just trying to comfort people (or uphold the image of size not mattering among women), given your husband has a larger-than-average penis. It is like a guy with a Ferrari going "Speed is not all there is to a car".

True, but speak to a race car driver, no matter how good the car it'll depend upon whose driving it.

[Claret]

You do have a point. But, what if both twins are clean, confident and well groomed?

Then I'd say it would depend upon the confidence level and the topics of conversation, how one made me feel over the other. Simple as that. And you still wouldn't know what was under their clothing.

[Claret]

OK I'm confused - how is it that women are supposed to know a man's penis size before they have sex? Is there an Iphone app or something? I guess if the guy shows up in a huge jacked-up 4WD truck with giant chrome exhaust pipes she may have a clue......

It could be a case of over compensation????

[Mr. Inquisitive]

Guys really need to stop obsessing over penis size. Are there women who it may be an issue with? Of course. So what. You move on and find another. If you have a woman that makes you happy and you make her happy she won't care. I have a few friends who self confess to being small, not average, SMALL and they are both married to beautiful women who say their sex life is great.

[Obelisk]

I think what Obelisk is trying to say is this: Let us say that a woman could pick between two identical men where the only difference between them was that one had a smaller than average penis and the other had a larger than average penis (or a large penis, period). Now, E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G. else about these men is E.X.A.C.T.L.Y. the same (outside-the-bedroom qualities and everything). Which one would this woman choose (given she did not have any specific penis-size preference for whatever reason)?

You know, I kind of wanted to butt out of these threads. My questions were pretty much answered as best as they can be.

But since I'm being mentioned specifically, I think I need to clarify myself a bit.

We need to separate attraction to looks, and attraction to personality.

I think we both men and women are attracted to both in equal but different ways.

If I do a little reversal, and say that, let's say, women were asking me "do you prefer looks or personality?"

I would have to answer that personality is more important. With the caveat that there's a "looks" threshold that I need to have. I need to find my woman attractive. For a woman that is 5'6, that usually means for me she needs to be less than 150lbs generally. Is she is 150lbs but incredibly sweet and compatible with me, I could easily overlook the weight.

Now if we're talking about ideal looks? Well, at that height, 110-120lbs is probably going to look stunning.

So then to penis size. I guess, again, we can use breasts as the female equivalent. If I were to be asked "If you had 2 women who looked exactly the same, and both had the exact same sweet personality that was compatible with yours, but one had d-cup sized breasts, and one had b-cup sized breasts, which one would you pick?"

My answer would be a shameless "the d-cup girl". And why not? I'm being offered the exact same thing, except one girl is a little better than the other one? By how much? I don't know? 10%

So it's like someone saying "would you rather have $90? or $100?"

Which one would you pick?

Now that scenario was hypothetical, and extremely unlikely to ever present itself.

In real life, usually (at least in my experience) it's usually the homelier women who tend to be the sweetest. I have no idea why this is. I would guess that it's because the really hot women get so much attention that it gets to their head. If you could find a knock out woman who really was a sweetheart interested in a symbiotic (and not a parasitic) relationship, man it's like winning the lottery or something.

So in real life, most of the time, to have a chance to find a woman who has a sweet personality, you're probably going to look for average looking ones.

Everything else being equal would a man pick a woman with larger breasts? Some would, I wouldn't - my preference is for average to somewhat smaller. There are men who like women with enormous breasts, but I don't think it is the majority.

I'm not a breast man either. However, I still do a double take sometimes when I see a shapely woman with a larger than normal chest.

I agree that this argument holds no water, for women as a general rule are not swayed by such a trivial thing such as penis size.

My problem with the whole thing is simply the fact that there seem to be a lot more big guys going around that I thought originally. So the chance of a woman priorly being with a guy who was 9-10" and then being with me (a tad less than 6") she would definitely notice my lack of length compared to what she's had. Or she might end up with a guy who is 4". That is a significant difference.
All I wanted was percentages. What's the percentage of men who are 7" or bigger. LilahX said 5% of her encounters were larger than average. What's average to her? maybe 7" is average.
Nobody wants to give me percentages. All I get it "it doesn't matter, we will love you not your penis". That's not what I asked.

Hmmm...penis size, well all I can say is that although the size is quite nice, there is so much more to satisfaction with a woman...so men please don't worry. Besides, if a man likes to go down on a woman all the time, she is very lucky.

Thank you for your honesty.

I think Obelisk will agree with me on this: It would sometimes (too often?) seem that the only chance an average-to-small-sized guy has against a large-sized guy is that the large-sized guy is a jerk and/or a bad lover (given the average-to-small-sized guy is not a jerk and/or bad lover, himself). Like, if a guy does not have much experience in lovemaking (read: not a lot of know-how), and does only have a small-to-average-sized penis, and has a bit of a challenging personality (due to something that happened to him in the past), then his chances of finding someone to be with would be slim-to-non-existent.

Although I do agree with you on this, I think it's something that we just have to come to terms with. For example, being a "good lover". Only possible if that particular woman you're with teaches you what she likes.

What you're saying to me is that you expect the first thing to transpire between the man and the woman is that they have sex and that the penis is the first thing the woman has seen and which is why she has decided to have sex with him. NOT TRUE. The first thing women do is see all the exterior packaging. If she likes the wrapper she may want to know what there is inside. This is done by talking to him, going out with him, seeing if she is having fun with him, seeing if she agrees with his ideas or not and on and on to determine whether or not there is a basis for an on-going relationship. This can be done in a relatively short period of time, or it could take months to years - who knows? Then, and only then does she decide to see if they are compatible sexually.

Of all the dates I've had, I could have been physical with those girls by the 3rd date.
I was physical with 2 of them within a month's time. Not sure where this year's stuff is coming from. Once you are physical, you really have nothing to do but hope the girl isn't too disappointed in whatever size you have.

So...do these men with big penises just go around showing it off and THAT'S how they get one night stands? Hmm... I'm pretty sure it's an even playing field for men of all different sizes. Usually you don't find out the size until you're having sex.

I believe bigger guys have more confidence to try to sleep with women quicker than smaller guys. This might be one of the reasons women tend to see guys with bigger units. They are simply "better equipped" (lol) to go after women sexually a lot quicker than smaller guys.

When you say it, it sounds like you are just trying to comfort people (or uphold the image of size not mattering among women), given your husband has a larger-than-average penis. It is like a guy with a Ferrari going "Speed is not all there is to a car".

I drive a car so souped up I've stuffed it to Ferraris
Speed and raw power are not the only things to driving though

Then I'd say it would depend upon the confidence level and the topics of conversation, how one made me feel over the other. Simple as that. And you still wouldn't know what was under their clothing.

I think he's giving you a hypothetical scenario where you do know their size.

[jns]

Best sex ever last night with my average 6" penis husband. He sucked my clit until I was wiggling around on the bed then started with slow penetration until I was biting my lip before finally speeding up. By the time he came I ended up orgasming so hard I was arching against him for probably a whole minute until it subsided. And the wet spot ended up on his side of the bed. :P

We should start a thread to find out if guys with average or smaller penises are generally better at oral. I would think so, but I don't have any evidence.

[Obelisk]

We should start a thread to find out if guys with average or smaller penises are generally better at oral. I would think so, but I don't have any evidence.

Average and small keep getting tossed around. The studies' 5"-6" range keeps getting mentioned. Women haven't given us what to them is average, and what is small. Instead we get the PC "it's the motion in the ocean" and "we don't care as long as you're nice to us" or something along those lines.

Not that I care much to get that answer though. I was pretty much done with the whole thing.

[kira]

My answer would be a shameless "the d-cup girl". And why not? I'm being offered the exact same thing, except one girl is a little better than the other one? By how much? I don't know? 10%

and my husband would choose B cup. He hates large breasts. He'd probably actually choose even an A over a D or larger. He said as soon as I lose enough weight that they won't get big again he will pay for a breast reduction to get me back to B cup. I actually gained 2 sizes when I gained weight. I'm unhappy with D, he's unhappy with D. Although he finds it amusing when my breasts knock things off the counter and I start swearing at them or I have to lift them over the lip of an animal cage to catch one or clean it.

[Obelisk]

and my husband would choose B cup. He hates large breasts. He'd probably actually choose even an A over a D or larger. He said as soon as I lose enough weight that they won't get big again he will pay for a breast reduction to get me back to B cup. I actually gained 2 sizes when I gained weight. I'm unhappy with D, he's unhappy with D. Although he finds it amusing when my breasts knock things off the counter and I start swearing at them or I have to lift them over the lip of an animal cage to catch one or clean it.

How tall are you?

There's always going to be exceptions to everything. In general though men are attracted to larger sized breasts as long as they are symmetrical with the rest of the body.

I have a friend who loooooves larger butts. He goes crazy when he sees a larger bootied woman. I look and she does nothing for me.

However, I think for a lot of men, although they would prefer a larger size, it's a small thing. To me it is. If the same woman had d cups or a cups, to me it might be a 10% difference in attractiveness, barring that there were other qualities in her.

I mean we could keep going round and round and round. There are just so many variables that for people to find the perfect fit is probably going to be a heck of a feat. So it always has to be made up by "love" and "personality". Such is the joke of life.

[lizzardb63]

So then to penis size. I guess, again, we can use breasts as the female equivalent. If I were to be asked "If you had 2 women who looked exactly the same, and both had the exact same sweet personality that was compatible with yours, but one had d-cup sized breasts, and one had b-cup sized breasts, which one would you pick?"

My answer would be a shameless "the d-cup girl". And why not? I'm being offered the exact same thing, except one girl is a little better than the other one? By how much? I don't know? 10%

You may pick the larger breasted woman now, but does that mean it's the better option? No not necessarily. The b-cup breasts might be firmer and perkier whereas maybe the lady with the D-cups is wearing a really good bra but when she goes to take it off they hang all saggy and flat. That being said, all sizes have their ups and downs, whether breasts or penises.