[atskitty2]

Wow adub. Aside from some sort of abusive situation, your perspective is the saddest thing I've heard of in quite some time.
I am not pitying you tho, this is your choice and your preference.

[a_dub]

Why not just work on being a good man and appreciating the strength of a good woman? Two powerful people together make each other stronger and no one is worried about who has an advantage. That's how a real team works.

Firstly Im not really looking for a relationship right now. If Im attracted to the person then sure, but right now the only void in my life is sexual. I have practically zero experience and ideally I need to make up for lost time.

But given the dificulty of finding single women - more so women willing to have sex - I find it hard to resist the allure of porn. It lets me get off whenever and however I want.

My porn habit is a but of inside joke amongst my buddies and they always jockingly ask if I have a new "girlfriend" or who Im "dating" now, lol.

[Stillness]

Using porn because having a healthy relationship is too much trouble is like using diet pills because you don't have time to eat right. It might satisfy your hunger for a while, but it will catch up with you. Based on some of your comments I think that the pornography has already done damage that you'll realize if and when you ever do have a relationship.

[rcoreyus]

There is a significant selection effect for which men will join a "women's health" discussion group. That aside, a lot of people have low self esteem, generally for completely unimportant reasons.

This whole penis inadequacy theme seems really popular here lol. Sexual games are all well and good, but if your fantasy is based on some sort of fundamental lack of self esteem that promotes more of the same, I can't see that as being too healthy.

[jen1447]

There is a significant selection effect for which men will join a "women's health" discussion group.

Hadn't really thought of that - point taken.

[ItsAllAboutTheGirl]

There is a significant selection effect for which men will join a "women's health" discussion group. That aside, a lot of people have low self esteem, generally for completely unimportant reasons.

Like they want a woman's perspective on a question they have? Feel free to elaborate if you'd like.

I can't speak for all of the guys on here but I feel that generally speaking I have very high self esteem. I think most people if they are honest with themselves would have at least one thing they would change about themselves if they could. Especially physical characteristics.

The more I ponder Jenn's "why" question the more I conclude I just think it would be hot!!!!!

[jen1447]

How about this: do you desire it more because it would be hot for you, or because you think it would be hot for her?

[ItsAllAboutTheGirl]

How about this: do you desire it more because it would be hot for you, or because you think it would be hot for her?

Both. I know it would be hot for me and I think it would be hot for her. At this point though I'm not planning on pushing it any further, I think

[orchiddreams]

My husband and I introduced MFM in our dirty talk and it is quite a turn on for us both. We play with the idea of actually doing it, imagining scenarios of how it would play out.

Being the female, I sometimes wonder if I could go through with it. I think that's part of the fantasy... Fantasizing that I could be that kind of woman- sexually open and uninhibited.

I think it's a grey area, and even if you actively decide to do it, no one really knows how it would go. Aside from the sexual pleasure, I often wonder what would the ramifications be of bringing a third party into our private life- not to mention the health risks, etc.

Continue playing with the idea there is no harm in that... And let her take the lead in deciding whether it would become a reality for you both.

[jen1447]

Well I could certainly get behind doing it for her pleasure. That in itself can be an aphrodisiac for women - knowing that your SO will do whatever it takes to see to your total satisfaction. You might present it that way to her. "It would get me off to see another guy railing you" can be kind of offputting if she's not real open-minded, but "I want you to cum like you've never cum before and I think a second guy is the answer" could be a turn-on in the context of her being the sole focus of your concern and efforts.

Like with everything else though, communication is the key. You can't try to 'trick' her (not saying you want to) because she'll know and it's just wrong. If she really is receptive in some faraway place, she'll appreciate the honesty and consideration and might consider it a real possibility.