[Patti-here]

Oh,, I saw you were talking about rape here,, I'll be brief,,, rape isn't really about sex at all,, it's about the physical dominance and humiliation of a woman, even if you find yourself in a sexual situation with her, if she says NO,,, no should still mean no..

[CHANDLERS WISH]

That's great Stillness, you've been around a long time across that Milky Way And, Sexual Consent, rape culture, implied sexual consent in a relationship, can a woman rape a man are all part of the said "heading" and they were all discussed very well, thanks.

Maybe you can cut and copy some extracts as well? For added discussion.

I agree Patty "No means No".

I "when" I get a chance will google the video as well Trix.

[Motorguy]

Oh,, I saw you were talking about rape here,, I'll be brief,,, rape isn't really about sex at all,, it's about the physical dominance and humiliation of a woman, even if you find yourself in a sexual situation with her, if she says NO,,, no should still mean no..

Very well said Patti as I completely agree whole heartily with you on what you said here so thank you. Having a daughter who was attacked 2 1/2 years ago so it's a very touchy subject with me and my family.

[Patti-here]

I'm not so sure how a woman can rape a man either,, for that you'd have to 'force' him to get an erection, I don't know if that's possible ?

[Motorguy]

I'm not so sure how a woman can rape a man either,, for that you'd have to 'force' him to get an erection, I don't know if that's possible ?

Here you go a case in San Diego a women was charge with rape to a man so it has happen before.



SAN DIEGO (AP) — A San Diego woman distraught over losing out on her family's dream house carried out a perverse revenge scheme to have the home's new owner raped, prosecutors said.

The defendant, Kathy Rowe, claims the scheme was a childish prank that got out of control and she intended no harm.

Rowe, 52, began by carrying out mild hoaxes on the young husband-and-wife home buyers — like putting a stop on their mail and sending religious missionaries to their doorstep, U-T San Diego reported Tuesday.

Her actions soon became criminal, according to prosecutors. Rowe allegedly posed as the wife in online adult entertainment ads titled "Carmel Valley Freak Show," inviting strange men over to the couple's home for sex and describing scenarios of a rape fantasy to those who responded. The wife's photo and address were included in the postings.

"I love to be surprised and have a man just show up at my door and force his way in the door and on me, totally taking me while I say no," Rowe wrote to one man who responded, according to the newspaper.

One man decided to follow up on the offer, but was thwarted once by a locked gate and a second time when the husband answered the door.

The state appeals court last week ruled that Rowe, a county administrative analyst, will have to answer to felony counts of solicitation of rape and solicitation of sodomy — two charges that a Superior Court judge previously dismissed from the case.

In a letter to a judge, Rowe described as "devastating" the moment in 2011 when she lost the house due to miscommunication with real estate agents, and a more attractive bid from the other couple. She had her heart set on the home because it was a single story, to accommodate her severely disabled daughter, and had a pool, to provide exercise for her husband following a heart attack.

"The anger and grief over losing that house (and especially in the way we did) drove me to behave in a very childish way and to do what I thought were childish pranks to let off steam and ease the pain," Rowe said. "I never intended for them to be hurtful."

Neither the couple nor their lawyer responded to a request from U-T San Diego for comment.

[Patti-here]

Here you go a case in San Diego a women was charge with rape to a man so it has happen before.



SAN DIEGO (AP) — A San Diego woman distraught over losing out on her family's dream house carried out a perverse revenge scheme to have the home's new owner raped, prosecutors said.

The defendant, Kathy Rowe, claims the scheme was a childish prank that got out of control and she intended no harm.

Rowe, 52, began by carrying out mild hoaxes on the young husband-and-wife home buyers — like putting a stop on their mail and sending religious missionaries to their doorstep, U-T San Diego reported Tuesday.

Her actions soon became criminal, according to prosecutors. Rowe allegedly posed as the wife in online adult entertainment ads titled "Carmel Valley Freak Show," inviting strange men over to the couple's home for sex and describing scenarios of a rape fantasy to those who responded. The wife's photo and address were included in the postings.

"I love to be surprised and have a man just show up at my door and force his way in the door and on me, totally taking me while I say no," Rowe wrote to one man who responded, according to the newspaper.

One man decided to follow up on the offer, but was thwarted once by a locked gate and a second time when the husband answered the door.

The state appeals court last week ruled that Rowe, a county administrative analyst, will have to answer to felony counts of solicitation of rape and solicitation of sodomy — two charges that a Superior Court judge previously dismissed from the case.

In a letter to a judge, Rowe described as "devastating" the moment in 2011 when she lost the house due to miscommunication with real estate agents, and a more attractive bid from the other couple. She had her heart set on the home because it was a single story, to accommodate her severely disabled daughter, and had a pool, to provide exercise for her husband following a heart attack.

"The anger and grief over losing that house (and especially in the way we did) drove me to behave in a very childish way and to do what I thought were childish pranks to let off steam and ease the pain," Rowe said. "I never intended for them to be hurtful."

Neither the couple nor their lawyer responded to a request from U-T San Diego for comment.

I'm not sure I understand this,, It doesn't say she physically raped anyone,, for a woman to rape a man he'd have to cooperate and if he's cooperating, it can't be rape...

[Stillness]

rape isn't really about sex at all,, it's about the physical dominance and humiliation of a woman

I never get statements like this. I understand it being about dominance or humiliation like other types of violence. I don't how it's not about sex or lust at all, though. It's sex...or at least sexual.

Also, rape is not based on whether or not the victim is aroused. An erection doesn't mean that the person is a willing participant or is legally able to consent. It's just like a woman experiencing physical pleasure and even climax while being assaulted. That pleasure is often a source of shame. We can't completely control our body's responses.

And sexual assault can occur without the penis penetrating. So an erection is not even necessary.

[Patti-here]

I never get statements like this. I understand it being about dominance or humiliation like other types of violence. I don't how it's not about sex or lust at all, though. It's sex...or at least sexual.

Also, rape is not based on whether or not the victim is aroused. An erection doesn't mean that the person is a willing participant or is legally able to consent. It's just like a woman experiencing physical pleasure and even climax while being assaulted. That pleasure is often a source of shame. We can't completely control our body's responses.

And sexual assault can occur without the penis penetrating. So an erection is not even necessary.

Yes,, but there's difference between rape and assault,, honestly having an orgasm is as much psychological as physical for me, so if I'm being forced to have sex, I doubt I'd climax from it...

Maybe I'm just thick,, I just don't understand how a woman can rape a man...

[Motorguy]

I'm not sure I understand this,, It doesn't say she physically raped anyone,, for a woman to rape a man he'd have to cooperate and if he's cooperating, it can't be rape...

They say men can still get erection evening by being force to have one because it's really has a mind of it's own.But rape does not have to be a penetration sexually action it's a forcing of anything sexually on a women or man against there will.

[Patti-here]

They say men can still get erection evening by being force to have one because it's really has a mind of it's own.But rape does not have to be a penetration sexually action it's a forcing of anything sexually on a women or man against there will.

Without penetration,, it's not rape, it's sexual assault...

If you CAN force an erection on a man and make him penetrate you,, all I can say is she must be pretty darn desperate...