[Hemlock]

First off, I'm a virgin. No plans to change that. Would rather cuddle or watch a movie with a porn star than have real sex with her, or any girl for that matter.

When watching a video it's normally about the situation and the act of sex. Roleplaying is really sexy. For example, in one video a son blackmails his mom and aunt. Also enjoy reading sex stories. The sexiest ones are typically have progression. Not jumping straight into a sex scene but having it develop. Usually it starts innocent, like a girl sitting on a guy's lap during a car ride. As the road gets bumpy something begins to happen.

Jerk Off Instruction is very much about role-play. There's one where she acts like your girlfriend. She looks and talks as sweet as can be. An angel that just wants to make you happy. Stuff like that... makes me wonder if there is an alternate reality where I have a girlfriend like her. We're in love and share our souls together. My point mentioning that, is at least for me, there can be a sweetness to porn. That's one of the reasons I enjoy lesbian porn. So vulnerable and intimate. It is often truly beautiful.

Porn is very complicated. There's so much variety to it, not just in genres and sub-genres, but scene to scene. Most things in life are like this. Yet, for some reason, porn is suggested to all be the same. There is stuff that afterwards... I don't feel particularly good about enjoying. While other instances are practically life affirming. Whether porn is good or bad, porn stars are people, same as anyone. They're no less deserving of love and happiness. Let's say I had a favourite porn star. I'd rather she got out of the business then stay in, if it was making her miserable. Not because I'm a saint. Far from it. But she, like all of us, is worth every bit of joy and serenity that hopefully she's be able to find.

[Stillness]

Women will never "replace" porn, because the whole point of porn is that it taps into the male desire for unlimited, no bars sex with unlimited, nameless nubiles. This is every man's enduring, over abiding fantasy since testosterone first woke up his pikestaff.

I appreciate your expressions. Although I'm not a moderator, I can pretty much assure you you won't get banned for them.

I will admit that I have a fantasy to sex multiple women from time to time (mostly when I'm sexually frustrated). Oftentimes I also fantasize about punching people in the face when they irritate me. I know for a fact that in real life these will have a bad outcomes and will not lead to any real fulfillment or satisfaction. They would lead to immediate regret and shame.

None of this is my ultimate fantasy. That involves being happy and doing things that will make me happy. Sexually, it involves my wife alone. My experience with her is not as you describe. On a mental, physical, emotional, and spiritual level healthy men can be best satisfied with one healthy woman. That's my belief. When I've been in fulfilling sexual relationships, my fantasies about other women disappear or at least dwindle to close to nothing.

Whatever you're doing, at some point you get past the sex and you want more. What then? I can't speak from experience, but I actually do think that there is some satisfaction to be had from being with multiple women. It's diminished, though. I think it's sort of like the two-boys-have-half-a-brain principle. You'd think that more is better, but it's really less. I can speak from my daily experience that the bond between man and woman is a beautiful and enjoyable thing on every level. It's hard enough building and maintaining that with one person, though. It's why so many fail.

[jns]

And so, being smart enough to not let the cat out of the bag, and because any is better than none, he convinces himself and therefore ergo, her, that yes, this is what I always wanted! This tedious sex with the same woman - who just seems to get uglier and uglier, heavier and heavier, smellier and smellier - week after week after week. Yes, that's the stuff of dreams.

Sex is only tedious if one of the people doing it is bored or is boring. If one's libido is high enough, not getting bored with sex can go on for years and years. Libido is partially mental state and partially hormones.

About a woman's physical traits as she gets older: a lot of what people see as beauty is tied up in the images we see from advertising and in movies. In the western world, youth and anorexia seem to be the rage. Yet, you can go into art and find Rubenesque figures that were what society lauded at one time. The same with the adding of character to a face with age. Generally, it takes getting past the ignorance of youth state for a a person to start appreciating the characteristics of people as they age.

Women who take care of themselves generally do not have objectionable odors at any age. Most women take care of themselves.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Women who take care of themselves generally do not have objectionable odors at any age. Most women take care of themselves

Just have to say Amen to that.

It's nice to know that men appreciate and realise this.

It's a tricky field to ensure our men don't think they are in-adequate when we, take control..

Guess some men don't realise that women can do it for themselves too

[Obelisk]

Women will never "replace" porn, because the whole point of porn is that it taps into the male desire for unlimited, no bars sex with unlimited, nameless nubiles. This is every man's enduring, over abiding fantasy since testosterone first woke up his pikestaff.

No men will admit it (because most men, nowadays, are as conscious of their fundamental drives as insects are) and women, although they suspect it on some level, won't and can't accept it (hence the reason I'll probably be banned) but the fact is, a man is as sexually active as his options.

Man's fantasy principle is to command sex, at will, from any and all attractive female, when he's up for it.

Man's reality principle is that he's lucky if he meets one woman that will put up with him, and after a few goes at it, the sex becomes crushingly boring and routine (whatever lamo effort she might make to 'spice' it up), but unless he's rich, or unusually charming, options are limited, so "she'll have to do".

And so, being smart enough to not let the cat out of the bag, and because any is better than none, he convinces himself and therefore ergo, her, that yes, this is what I always wanted! This tedious sex with the same woman - who just seems to get uglier and uglier, heavier and heavier, smellier and smellier - week after week after week. Yes, that's the stuff of dreams.

Porn sits in the space between the reality and the fantasy principle: it is castrated, limited men (most of us) with no great options, looking on at what might have been, if fate served us a wilder hand. That is its meaning, and it's success.

Porn itself is so very retarded, but that befits the whole sorry spectacle. A man furiously beating off to porn is to nature what a starved, simpering lion eating lettuce is: a woeful, woeful sight.

As for visual versus literary porn. Given that this is 'women's health', we can safely conclude that visual porn is bad, because it's primarily male, and literacy porn is not so bad, because it is primarily female.

I look forward to sharing more of my thoughts with you.

Hmm, you know I was wondering if I should bother posting in here.

I'm one of the guys who has watched porn in the past simply due to not having a real woman to sleep with for a long time.

I was never addicted to it though because I could see how fake it was from the beginning. I actually laugh at most of it. It's usually with bleach dyed fake blondes with humongous fake looking breasts, getting humped at jackhammer speeds by some steroid monkey, and "screaming with ecstasy" at every single thrust, and then taking the guy's "stuff" right in her face. It's like that's the formula for every single porn movie.

I know when I finally started sleeping with real women, porn completely dropped off the map for me. Even when I get aroused, I usually think of my gf and past times when I was with her, even if she doesn't look like a porn star. I think it's because it's so much satisfying to be with a girl that is enjoying being with you and is getting pleasure from you just as much as you are from her. That can't be replaced by the silliness I see in most porn clips.

I still look at porn a bit, like if I've unable to see my girl for a few days. I was never attracted to the fake looking stuff. I tend to like the more "realistic" stuff where girls are masturbating in realistic ways (like using vibes on their clits) and you can tell they are genuinely enjoying it (or are really great actresses lmao)


Now as far as your post is concerned, you are correct up to an extent. I think most men have generally a higher sex drive than most women. I think most women, even if they are horny, can ignore it and not masturbate for weeks at a time. Most men forget it, after 2-3 days we need to get off or it starts to become uncomfortable.

So yes, when we men are really horny, we wish we could have unlimited sex with hot and always available women. I personally wish it wasn't like that, so in my case, I separate what my body wants with what my mind wants. I could say in my case I have no desire to have unlimited access even to one woman. I'd be much happier if we could agree to be with each other at a compromise that works for both of us.

Your post sounds like it was blaming women for it though. I realized a while back that most women have no idea how horny men can really get. Sure they know it in an abstract sense, but can't really experience it, which is why they are confused as to why men crave sex so much.

I remember chatting with my girl about it, because sometimes she calls me and wants me to drop by because she is really horny. This happens like once every 2-3 weeks. One day I jokingly said "trust me you don't know what horny is", and she asked why I said that. So I asked her "do you masturbate?" and she said "yes sometimes". So I asked "how many times" and she said "maybe like once every 2 weeks, if I'm horny enough". So I said "yeah I usually do it twice a week" and she was like "twice a week! wow". I said "yeah I can make it to a week, then it becomes uncomfortable. I could do it to 2 weeks, but by that point a breeze will get me to cum". She said "I guess it's because of your higher testosterone" which I found cute.

So yeah I think on paper they understand, but not really what it feels like for real. I think good women do understand that, and try to help their men out as much as they can. I can see it on this board that women for the most part want their men to be satisfied.

I hope we all find our matches. I like it when good men and women find each other

[wino33]

I don't necessarily thing they try to live vicariously through it... it takes very little to arouse a man, so when there are naked ladies prancing around, boobs bouncing, moaning... etc. it just really turns them on. I find myself closing my eyes and thinking about my wife and our own sex life when it comes time to get off.

[MARS2VENUS]

Whilhelm,
i don't agree with your generalizations.. Although, i have viewed porn, i prefer the time with my wife over porn. I prefer to have a emotional connection with a desirable person, rather than porn star. Likewise, a colleague insisted on going to a strip club, however, i had no interest. obviously, his wife did not satisfy his needs.

If a guy needs porn when he has a mate, there is something wrong with him. i have watched porn briefly with my wife, however, we both find it boring.

[anchel1231]

In my opinion when i watch any porn movie i just concentrate on how much she/he trusty for sex. I physically feel very sexy when i saw any porn and feel to do the same.

[nasta75]

Very few women watch porn because porn was creatited for guys! If 50% of porn movies were for women, more women would enjoy to watch porn.
I am for equality between men and women and I think it also involves sex. Why do men have the monopoly of the sex industry? This is not fair! We are women, we are different and we have ours own vision of sex: "Men are from Mars and Women from Venus"...

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[Motorguy]

Well first thing women make more money in porn then men. Most men do watch the porn for the obvious reason the women, but more and more women are watching porn now days for the big in the dept guys and the sexy and beautiful women being more women are bi.