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  • BabyGirl
    Banned
    • May 2010
    • 1665



    It is finally time, Thanks to you " Lil Missy " I hope you will change your nick to something like that, Lil Miss or Missy, if allowed to . You see you don't seem like Stereo Heart, that means Two Hearts , you only have one, but it is Big enough for Two ( and More ).

    For me to tell the final, last year of my Story with " John ". I've written some parts of it, in segments since Christmas time. I was going to post it , sometime, when I felt the time is Right, You seem to have Pushed me over the Fence on this one .. Payback ? Lmao

    I named it, He's Not my Lover He's my Brother... AKA From Mistress to Sistress .

    John , contacted me last May, 2011 after 1 year on no contact. It blew me away and Pizzed me off Big Time. I was getting over him , getting over missing him. could finally see or hear a Diesel Truck and not immediately think of him. Summer had passed, Fall had passed, Winter had passed. Spring was in full Bloom.
    Sure I thought of him time to time. But it was a Faded "love " a In the Past " Love ". A He will never Be my " Love " and somewhere, sometime I will find " MY LOVE ".

    The first Sunny, Spring Day, a text. "Hey BG, how are you, how you been, Saw the Sunshine and thought of you ". I Flipped, My Heart, Flipped and, it was weird, because right after the First Emotions of happiness, and to admit, maybe he's decided living Unhappy was a choice he decided he just could not do anymore ( meaning he had left the Abuse and was finally caring about himself ).
    I do not know how I calmly, asked him how he & the Mrs were ? He replied with, "good, but So So, still sleeping on Couch, nothings changed much, still working ... She not working. Still supporting her ***, But that is my duty as Husband ya know "

    ( Me) Good to hear, things here are Good, Kids fine. Well running out door .. off to work . talk with ya later .
    I lied to him, I didn't have to work that day .. I came straight here to WH !!! And poured my Angry Heart out. Why this Why Now.. I got the most replies from those who have been around here a long time, Guys and Girls that knew my Story..
    At least the ones who weren't Trolls or had no Idea, what I was going through .. Not Judging Newbies, for their Advise. well maybe I am, because they had very short " advise " mostly about me being a Bad Woman , to have had an affair the Year before.

    Anyway, I was calmed by those here that are " Sisters of My Heart " They know who they are ..
    Barely kept contact with him on Text. Then he show's up at my work, casually says Hi and asked if I could help him with a parts look up ? Yep that's my Job..

    After he was helped, he texts me at work. Convo is ...
    Him)Great seeing you again, so glad we are Friends Still .

    Me)Yep, you are welcome at the store whenever you need, that's what I am Here for . That's what I'm Paid to do.

    Him)Didn't mean to upset you, just that you are the only Auto Parts Pro, I can Trust with Good Advise .

    Me ) Didn't upset me, We are Friends. We Started out as Friends, and we are now Friends, Only Friends.

    He agreed with that, we had let things get out of hand.. And we did, on Both Sides. he asked " can I still come to you for Advise ?" Me thinking Car parts , said Sure . Then through May, June & July and Most of August, we'd Text now and then . Mostly me being the " Listening Mother " .. Did you try this with the Mrs ? Have you tried That ?
    Same story, he apparently made efforts, she's still not Willing, he's still being " Blackmailed " by the Courts for putting his home up for her Debts .

    August 25, my birthday, last year. I get a ...Good Morning Birthday Girl. Can ya meet at the Park for 5 minutes, Got something to give you . What could I gain or Lose from meeting him again ? I was upset,but only simmering, those past 3 months. I was Strong, we had texted about inconsequential things, Keep in touch things, be a Friend thing. For 3 months.

    We sat on the bench, where we used to meet, I fed the Ducks we used to feed together. While he talked .. He talked about his wife, the ongoing problems that have never Changed with him.

    I saw the Sadness, the Lost, the Lil Boy, that I knew had suffered, not only through his marriages, but through his Military, his dedication to be an " Honorable Man ". And he asked me, if I would walk with him one more time.

    I did. I needed to see myself what was " Truth ".
    I walked behind while holding hands on the trail.. He led the way to where we knew our " Tree " was. We both talked about the Growth of the " Tree " in just 1 year. The Foliage, the Bugs , the Birds and Squirrels and he reached for me and Kissed Me.

    It was Not the same.. It was like I was Kissing my Brother, It was like kissing my Cousin. it was like Kissing my Child.. It was ME.. Saying No, to that kind of relationship. Somehow, my Love for him changed, I didn't want him like that anymore.

    John said " It's not there anymore is it ? You don't love me anymore do you ?" He looked Abandoned..

    I Understood... Somehow I understood, what he was feeling. But I also understood, I can not " Fix " that feeling myself, whether he is with her or me, I cannot Fix that for him. And It Must stop with ME. My Man Child, must have Room to Grow, he must Find his own Way.

    I told him, as we walked back to the bench, that I did Love him, I was not in love with him . I told him, that we had allot of Good between us, non Sexual Good . That we shared allot of beliefs, that I could not Hate him, he said he didn't want to lose me. So, then is when I set the Boundaries.

    I can be in his life as a Sister and Friend. I will be there when he needs me, I will still try to help him fix things with his Wife. I'll still be a shoulder to cry on. We can go back to the Friendship, that we started with 3 years ago.
    But that is the only way I won't Abandon him, is by keeping it in line, not crossing that line.

    Now he calls me "Sis " I call him "Bro", We are " family ". We wish each other Happy Holidays,Birthdays, we chat on Yahoo and Skype, we play Checkers and Chess on line. When his wife walks in the room he doesn't hide the game or Comp from her, ( unless it's him bytchin about her lol ).
    He has told her I am his Long Lost Sister.. And when he whoops my Butt in Checkers or Chess, I yell at him like I would a Brother, And I can hear her laughing in the background.. I have not met her yet, not sure I want to. I might Bytch her out about taking better care of my "Bro " and herself. That meeting may come some day . Time will tell.

    John moved jobs from the Base, while we were " Split up ". He works about 10 blocks from my work. He works in a Home and Hardware Store now. I stop in his store sometimes, he stops in mine for Auto Parts .. We call each other Bro & Sis in public, introduce each other as that to co workers.
    It is funny though, one of my Ex Co~workers started working for his Company a couple of months ago. And is she a Wild ~Woman. He asked me about her , I was honest. He still asks me about her, says she like him , talks with him on lunch, is very touchy feely, which she was at my store. I just warn him, she may have an Ole Man , but Bro, best not test those waters, even if she is a " Wild Woman with an Ole Man ".. I've met her Ole Man and they seem to have a " Freedom Marriage/ Relationship ". Maybe you & Mrs can get in a foursome ??

    John just says, " Learned my Lesson there Sis , I'll suffer with what I Have ". And I always hit back with " Well she's better than doing Drugs or Dying Alone ".

    You're Right Sis
    I Know I am Bro.
    Night Sis..
    Night John Boy ..










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    • BabyGirl
      Banned
      • May 2010
      • 1665


      There I'm sure I've shocked a few people on here..
      And it seems Speechless Lmao.

      Lil Missy ..

      I cannot tell you How to do what I did with John. Nor can I tell you it will work for you & Matt.
      I can tell you It starts with YOU, just like it Started with you, when you became his Friend. When you Started to Love..
      There is a Line that we all chose to Cross, sometimes. Most of the time, we know we are crossing it, but it does Not Sink in, what the repercussions are or can be .

      It's called Learning from Life.

      The Beautiful Loving Woman that you are, has made hard choices before, The one to Live is the most Important one. The one to be Compassionate and giving, is next. The one to be wanted to be Loved, is ongoing, That is not Crazy, that is a necessity of Life. We all need and want that .


      You say you were going to see him. You know you must stop being the " Mistress " The 2nd Choice in his life ( Woman wise ).
      Is there any way , you can just explain, that you do love him as a Person . To yourself first then him ? And if he Moved or even Passed on , can you know you can still be able to love someone else in the future ?

      But with me the No contact for a year was the fist step. Though it was forced by him. The Anger helped too. The anger at him and the anger at myself. What was I doing wanting another Woman's husband , even if he was unhappy. It was Wrong !!! Boy did I bash myself over that . *****, ****, you name it.. Then I got tired of calling myself names, of feeling bad and decided to " Change/ Fix " those feelings about myself. To become someone I could respect and be proud of .

      You have it much harder, you live near him, you interact with him in the Neighborhood. You are going to have to avoid being with him alone, avoid most of the things that you know will bring you together in the same room or same yard, like BBQ's.

      I know, that when you see him, your Heart just Flips, but realize that others can see that too. You may think you are masking your thoughts and desires in public. But Love is very hard to hide. As you said, your friend already suspects, there is a reason he/ she suspects. It's in something you do, when he is mentioned, or the way your eyes follow him when he is within vision.

      Sit down, write a list, A list of things that can happen if it is found out about you & Matt. Be extreme in that list, like the 100 flyers in the neighborhood that she would post. The Neighbors reactions, your Job finding out.

      Then list things that you want in your future for you. List the qualities you want in a partner. You can use some of his qualities, as you are attracted to those parts of him. But will " Cheats on Wife " be a quality you would want ? Add qualities that he doesn't have to your list. Like Honesty and faithfulness.

      Telling him, when you decide to end the " Cheating part of your Relationship " is not going to be easy. You can tell him , that you have taken a look at yourself, that you do not feel good about yourself, that you can no longer have a physical or emotional relationship with a Married man.

      Tell him, that he needs to work on his marriage, suggest counseling. That you cannot be part of the " Therapy ". In time, maybe you can be Friends again, but maybe not. You want time without contact via Emails. You will not be alone with him anymore, you need to get your " Shyt " together, learn to respect yourself again.

      With this, he will act two ways. Accept it and Agree and Understand and even feel Guilt himself or he will play the " I need you Card ". If he plays that card, you will know that he really does not Respect you or your feelings. That he is selfish and does not really care if you feel bad about the relationship.

      It's a long hard road, but you can do it. They say " It Takes Two to Tango, you need to step out of this Dance, don't be a wallflower, but find another Dancing Partner .. Someone out there wants to Dance through Life with you !!


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      • Stereohearts
        Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 27

        BG,
        I was not speechless...lol. I have not been able to get on because my roomate hasn't paid the Comcast bill in almost 3 months so they finally ended up turning off the Internet, TV and phone. Well, I was ****ed off!!! She didnt even mention it. She came home with a new ring she had bought herself and I was soo happy for her thinking that she had saved up for it and finally got to treat herself to something really nice. Then the next day comcast turned everything off. I called comcast and sounded like such an idiot...me thinking she had been paying the bill. Anyway they finally explained and I had to confront my roomate about it...hard!! I'm a bit of a pushover, but I did. Figured everything out with comcast and pulled the money out of my *** to solve yet another problem. So internet should be back on Monday. Just sooo ****ed off!!!!! At barnes and noble using there wi-fi and having some coffee.


        Anywayzz...I loved your story! Helped a lot to hear more about your story. I also read some of your other threads and just have to say you are truly an amazing woman. And an incredible mother!

        Well, Was supposed to see him Thursday night, but you and CW would be so proud! I was invited to a party that night. It was a friends house warming party. Not your traditional house warming party...lol. So, I canceled plans with Matt to go to the party. Was kind of tired of the plans always being made to fit his schedule. Went to the party and turns out it was pretty much a set-up. My friends were playing match maker and found this guy for me. Haha...it was funny. He was a year younger then me...seriously!!! Sorry younger doesnt work. He is an athlete, who talked of like nothing but himself...haha. Didn't stay out to late cause I had to work the next day, but I did go out to have some drinks with him after my friends pretty much forced me. I had fun, but not interested at all. lol.
        So Friday, Work was great. Didnt even talk to Matt all day. Came home and found out that my roomate was going to be gone all weekend. I was sooo happy! I love her to death, but seriously needed me time. And the whole comcast thing ****ed me off. So I picked up a book and started to read. Was going to read all weekend. I was soo excited! She left and about 5 chapters later I hear the door bell. Open the door and my heart drops.
        It's Matt, with flowers (Never has he ever brought me flowers!!)
        Me: Who died?
        Him: *confused* No one..
        Me: oh...
        Him:What are you up to?
        Me:Reading..
        (he is still in the door...)
        Him: Am I aloud in?
        Me: *takes the flowers* sure.
        He follows me to the kitchen as I throw out 3 week old flowers from my roomates boyfriend and put the new flowers in the vase.
        Me: So, whats up?
        Matt:Not much.
        (things felt a little weird for some reason...)
        I walk into the living room and told him we didnt have any cable...then put in Bridesmaids (He LOVES that movie!!) I sat down on the couch. He sat next to me...things still were weird for some reason. Eventually he lay in my lap and watch the movie as I read my book and rub his head. I look at him and realize what you guys have been saying is totally true. He is my "Man Child". I just start thinking about everything...(thinking is a dangerous thing for me). He looked a little sad, I asked, "whats wrong"...he said, "nothing". Me thinking...I'm not going to beg him to tell me, i'm so tired of it. I got up and I made some food and we both ate, he told me about his day and asked why i didnt get on messenger, told him things were busy at work and we had a new kid (which we did, he's 5 months old and the sweetest little thing ever!)...we were talking more but something just wasnt right!!! After dinner I cleaned up and went to lay down on the floor (sounds weird, but I hate my couch and I have a shag rug that i LOVE and I put pillows down and lay there all the time...he laid beside me. Asked if I would crack his back, so I cracked and rubbed his back (wasnt the same...usually I would just want to sit there and rub him for hours but not this time.) Everything felt kind of one sided, like usually it feels like he is more attentive, nothing had changed...Maybe it was just me...I laid on my back and looked up at the ceiling and he just watched tv...Thor was on now...I felt soo stupid and unwanted. Like maybe i was just "2nd choice". Like I was just filling in the left over wants and needs. My head was going a million miles an hour.
        I told him I wasnt feeling well, and he should go. He did.
        As soon as I shut the door I just fell apart. Pulled myself together and started cleaning (my way of clearing my head) Thought alot about things you guys have said. Thought about maybe I did deserve better. But yet again maybe I didnt...maybe all the "Girl Talk" was getting to my head. But then again even if I deserve to not be totally happy, his wife didnt deserve to have her husband cheat on her, no matter how "awful" she may be...no one deserves that. I was up till 3am cleaning/thinking/crying.
        Saturday, woke up a lot better then I went to sleep. Was doing lawn work and guess who I see. Matt, his wife and their daughter. They were taking a walk. Wow, that was like a huge slap in the face. She said hello and waved, I said Hi...then went inside...Oh ****...yup...more tears.
        Pulled myself together again, looked at the calender...Not supposed to start my period in a while, not PMS. So what was going on. I'm NEVER this emotional!! So, I took a shower and slept away most of the day. Was up all nigh, finished my book. Made cupcakes. Back to bed.
        Then today, I saw I needed a haircut so cleaned myself up and decided to go out...Hair done, cars clean, groceries are in the house. Then went back out to Barnes and noble and got some new books. Been here for a few hours.
        Just everything is so clear on what I have to do, but i'm almost wishing it wasn't! Stupid right?
        I mostly feel stupid, and lost.
        I need to figure "ME" out.
        So thats the plan. Well, I'm going out of town to a funeral tomorrow until wednesday so wont happen all that soon, but it will happen. I'm done!

        Cant wait for your next response. Also was curious about the father of your children...if you rather not share I understand. Or if you already have a thread about that if you could point me in that direction that would be great.
        Last edited by Stereohearts; 06-17-2012, 10:35 AM.

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        • Stereohearts
          Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 27

          Wow!!! Trying to reply on my phone...ANNOYING!
          But also wanted to say I am taking your advise with the lists. I have pretty much done this, but only in my head. So I am going to write it all down on paper with a clear head. Having to try to figure out what I will say will be hard, but harder to say it to his face.
          But has to be done.
          Thank you so much!!!

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          • Stereohearts
            Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 27

            Sorry I'm just now replying to this.
            Thank you soo much!


            As BG said its going to be a long hard road, but i'm going to do it. And what you say about "safety zone" is right. I'm usually on the sidewalk and still watch my back.

            No, I haven't exactly felt that i'm amazing. I don't feel very strong. And am definitely not "proud" of myself. I'm sleeping with another womans husband that doesn't categorize me as being great.

            And I think your right about me going for him as a "older man" I have trust for.

            Thank for everything you have said to me so far. Your words have really helped me.

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            • CHANDLERS WISH
              • Mar 2008
              • 22440

              BG.......

              I don't know if I really would even go out of my way to be friends with John, to be honest.

              That's an underhanded thing for him to do. Ask you to meet on "your birthday".. Wanted to give you something, "a kiss" for self gain, a "talk" for self gain, me, me, me.. Did he give you a card? A flower?Anything?

              I'm pleased you shared it ..... your journey.... I am hoping you find what you are looking for... But, I urge you to read above and just have a little think..

              x
              PUT A LITTLE 'LIKE' IN MY SOUL!

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              • CHANDLERS WISH
                • Mar 2008
                • 22440

                See when a man feels he's losing someone? He automatically trys the flower thing? haha.

                See how when your mind starts to see the truth, you feel different, it feels different and you start to feel ewee... instead of aaaaah..

                You are strong... The atheltic dude definately wasn't for you lols. But, wasn't that fun?

                DEFINATELY PROUD OF YOU
                PUT A LITTLE 'LIKE' IN MY SOUL!

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                • Stereohearts
                  Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 27

                  Yea thinking about things has helped in a way, but still feel like i'm about to lose my best friend...you know? Funny how the right thing always hurts more. Or maybe its righting the wrong you've already done is what hurts.

                  And yea, I actually did have fun. lol.

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                  • CHANDLERS WISH
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 22440

                    Let's look at it this way. You did not had the opportunity to trust. Now you have had that opportunity, which is a gift as well as a lesson... As, you have learnt that you can trust, you now can move on.

                    Then there is this. Everyone comes into your life for a reason, a lifetime or a season His meat has been cooked hun

                    Good keep getting out there
                    PUT A LITTLE 'LIKE' IN MY SOUL!

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                    • BabyGirl
                      Banned
                      • May 2010
                      • 1665

                      Originally posted by CHANDLERS WISH
                      BG.......

                      I don't know if I really would even go out of my way to be friends with John, to be honest.

                      That's an underhanded thing for him to do. Ask you to meet on "your birthday".. Wanted to give you something, "a kiss" for self gain, a "talk" for self gain, me, me, me.. Did he give you a card? A flower?Anything?

                      I'm pleased you shared it ..... your journey.... I am hoping you find what you are looking for... But, I urge you to read above and just have a little think..

                      x


                      I understand where you are coming from CW. Hugz for Caring . You know I Love You

                      But yes, he did give me something, One.. an Apology,( after the Kiss )... Two an Eagle Feather he found out in the Woods. He knows my Native side.

                      Also he is like a Brother to me Now .. And he knows that that is the only way I can Care or Associate, even on the Net ,with him . I guess, it's easier for me than others, as I stayed Friends with my Ex's. I just somehow managed to still care. I moved on and accepted they were Not " The One " for me. But also kept in my Heart the good times. I loved those men for reasons, They were not all Bad Men. My Love did not Die, it just changed ...

                      ***As You've Said... many Times , "Some People are in your Life for a Season" ..My Seasons , just last longer than Others .. lol ***

                      After that one Kiss, he has Respected Me and My Decision. And says that our Friendship/ Bro & Sis Relationship is not worth Losing.
                      I now treat him like My Crazy Brother Kenny, most of you know about him . My Adopted Brothers , Tennessee ( Billy ) & JC ( Jimmy ) both " Bad Boys " with long Criminal ( Drug ) records, Non Violent ..
                      Whom, I love, but don't approve of most of their Behavior nor will I ever let any of them Hurt me or My Family .

                      With John, he is treated just like my Other Bro's. If you are or do Something Wrong, Deal with it.. Keep repeating the same Mistakes and not trying to change your Life for the Better . Deal with it. I'll help if I can, but I will not Enable nor will I be dragged into your Trauma and Drama .

                      With John , when he starts his Pizzen about the Mrs. He gets the same , Fix it or End it. Make more effort, Change it if you can, If not willing to listen to my Advise ...Deal with It .
                      It's not that I don't care, it's that I Do care !! But I also learned to not Lay or Wallow in " Poop ".

                      I Made a Mistake ( many in my life ) and I Owned It , Accepted it and Learned from it . I will Never again, date, get close to or allow myself to be Involved with a Married man .
                      I deserve a Man of my Own, not someone Else's Man , when they are on the " Outs " or Unhappy in Marriage. And if I ever meet another Man I am interested . Trust me.. He had best be Single or Divorced . None of this I'm a Roomie or Separated Crapolla.

                      I will Force the ...Meet your Kids or go to your Home or Work, meet your Friends, Issues. Or we will not be Involved ..

                      Now back to Stereo's Probs

                      I will post more later, it's my first day back at work for me after 7 days off from an Illness . Not Work Related..Cardio Related, but, my complaint has to do with Work somewhat ..

                      I'll post about in the Work thread .. lol







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