[brunettebabe]

my man does not jack off at all. in fact he is kind of weird about his penis. practically the only time he wants to touch it is when he is peeing.

[a_dub]

At 32 posts and counting just from late December, I am betting you will become addicted

Passion is a must in a relationship, not just in bed but out.. A person who is passionate about "life" brings that into the bedroom..

Women are emotional creatures.. Simple things like a kiss on the cheek or a stroke on the neck (for no reason) makes a woman feel loved and in that, she gives back 10 fold...

Sex is sex to us, lust... Once you get past the lust, you need passion, unless it's just horny sex, taken just because, there is sensuality involved in kissing and touching which hightens the mood

I think about 30 of those posts came in the last 3 days leaving aprox. 2 posts in the first 3 weeks, hah!

But I can only imagine the field day my buddies would have if they find out I visit a "women's health" forum, lol.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

At 32 posts and counting just from late December, I am betting you will become addicted

Passion is a must in a relationship, not just in bed but out.. A person who is passionate about "life" brings that into the bedroom..

Women are emotional creatures.. Simple things like a kiss on the cheek or a stroke on the neck (for no reason) makes a woman feel loved and in that, she gives back 10 fold...

Sex is sex to us, lust... Once you get past the lust, you need passion, unless it's just horny sex, taken just because, there is sensuality involved in kissing and touching which hightens the mood

[a_dub]

I understand that, it's very difficult if you haven't been in a serious, on-going relationship for at least 2 years to understand how we tick, what we prefer, what we wear, talk about... You're are in a realtionship of sorts now, with us The more you talk, the more we are "getting you"

So yes, "talking to us" on this Forum and reading other threads definately counts to some form of eductation.

Its both an honor and a pleasure to trade posts with you ladies!

[a_dub]

Watching it so much is not a problem until it interferes with your life. Not paying bills because you would rather buy more online time with a webcam chat girl, not showering because you would rather do yourself all day, not go to work because you would rather stay home at do yourself all day, or ignore your girlfriend or wife because the online girls look better and hence you would rather do yourself than do a single thing with her....those things are a problem of reliance, simply doing it because you are single and bored is not so much a problem.

As for women not liking porn that is really a matter of the individual. Some people can tolerate it, some hate it, some love it. And that applies to both men and women. Not everyone loves the view of an actress faking an orgasm. Reasons for not liking porn are all over the place, I personally cannot stand any form. I am not attracted to women so visually I could care less about watching it since the main point of porn is the appearance of the women. So that means nothing to me. In addition I cannot stand blatant overreacting and acting, faking the way through the scene, the same "oh dear I dropped my pen guess you should bang me like crazy with 10 other guys"...not interested. The orgasms are fake, the actresses are just playing through the motions to get paid, the image itself is fake with often photoshop cropping out body parts and inserting ones from other girls (they do this to create that 'perfect' girl), the emotion is not real, all of it is just too over the top. I am not an over the top type of girl, I am very quiet and reserved. Hearing a clearly over exaggerated scream or moan to me is just annoying and all I think is "jeez that sounds like an animal in slaughter". That and the obvious over acting of bouncing around like they are having a seizure, I just do not get it because sex is not like that lol. Sex does not happen like it does on screen, ask any girl, so I just cannot get into it. Then there is 'amateur' stuff with regular people again over acting thinking they are like the professional playboy ones, cannot do it I just cannot get aroused by something that is essentially all acting. Further I have no actual fantasies so I have tried to search different forms but nothing gets me going. I am disturbed by torture/BDSM/control porn, 3somes mean nothing to me, lesbian does nothing (again because I am not attracted to girls in any way), dirty talk does nothing for me so that porn is out, raunchy cover the girl in facials and such does not get me going and so on. I have honestly tried to view stuff to keep an open mind about maybe it would get me going but nothing does, sex itself does, but in visual porn form not a thing does. So those are some examples of why a woman may not like porn the way a guy does. Of course not all women will think the same things, other women may simply love all of that and that is entirely their thing, everyone is different.

Yeah, that BDSM and rough stuff is totally unappealing. The only time I've seen it (as opposed to "watching" which involves willingness and entertainment) was when a buddy of mine showed off his collection to a friend and me. I was actually disgusted because the girl was being slapped (in the face), and actually threw up due to the actor shoving it down her throat. Def not my cup of tea. I will disagree with you on threesomes/DP though...that stuff is pretty good if done without any sadistic elements. Larger gang-bangs, not a fan of those that much.

What little sex I have had, I tried to copy the basic gyst of what I've seen. Obviously not the idiotic lines and over-acting. But I did try to copy the moves and the positions. Since that is all the experience I have, I can't really comment on how real sex is different from what you see on film. I guess the real stuff is more sensual and passionate with a lot more kissing and less grimacing and screaming at the top of your lungs???

[CHANDLERS WISH]

I might not be 19, but my relationships with women haven't been very extensive either. My cousin had sex with more girls by 19 than I have fantasized about in my life, lol. He probably doesn't know half that stuff since he hasn't been in too many relationships either.



I have a couple of women friends who have been coaching me to get over my fear of rejection and approach women I do like. And I read this forum quite regularly, does that count?

I understand that, it's very difficult if you haven't been in a serious, on-going relationship for at least 2 years to understand how we tick, what we prefer, what we wear, talk about... You're are in a realtionship of sorts now, with us The more you talk, the more we are "getting you"

So yes, "talking to us" on this Forum and reading other threads definately counts to some form of eductation.

Women don't like porn mainly because of 1) their insecurities especially within a relationship that it seems you prefer watching other naked women, than having sex with them or 2) that you wouild end up doing that, because whilst curiousity killed the cat Like alot of things, it can become an addiction.

[ItsASecret]

But I watch it due to boredom and curiosity...its the closest I can get to sex right at this moment. But maybe their negative reaction is because women are usually less porn-friendly then men are.

Watching it so much is not a problem until it interferes with your life. Not paying bills because you would rather buy more online time with a webcam chat girl, not showering because you would rather do yourself all day, not go to work because you would rather stay home at do yourself all day, or ignore your girlfriend or wife because the online girls look better and hence you would rather do yourself than do a single thing with her....those things are a problem of reliance, simply doing it because you are single and bored is not so much a problem.

As for women not liking porn that is really a matter of the individual. Some people can tolerate it, some hate it, some love it. And that applies to both men and women. Not everyone loves the view of an actress faking an orgasm. Reasons for not liking porn are all over the place, I personally cannot stand any form. I am not attracted to women so visually I could care less about watching it since the main point of porn is the appearance of the women. So that means nothing to me. In addition I cannot stand blatant overreacting and acting, faking the way through the scene, the same "oh dear I dropped my pen guess you should bang me like crazy with 10 other guys"...not interested. The orgasms are fake, the actresses are just playing through the motions to get paid, the image itself is fake with often photoshop cropping out body parts and inserting ones from other girls (they do this to create that 'perfect' girl), the emotion is not real, all of it is just too over the top. I am not an over the top type of girl, I am very quiet and reserved. Hearing a clearly over exaggerated scream or moan to me is just annoying and all I think is "jeez that sounds like an animal in slaughter". That and the obvious over acting of bouncing around like they are having a seizure, I just do not get it because sex is not like that lol. Sex does not happen like it does on screen, ask any girl, so I just cannot get into it. Then there is 'amateur' stuff with regular people again over acting thinking they are like the professional playboy ones, cannot do it I just cannot get aroused by something that is essentially all acting. Further I have no actual fantasies so I have tried to search different forms but nothing gets me going. I am disturbed by torture/BDSM/control porn, 3somes mean nothing to me, lesbian does nothing (again because I am not attracted to girls in any way), dirty talk does nothing for me so that porn is out, raunchy cover the girl in facials and such does not get me going and so on. I have honestly tried to view stuff to keep an open mind about maybe it would get me going but nothing does, sex itself does, but in visual porn form not a thing does. So those are some examples of why a woman may not like porn the way a guy does. Of course not all women will think the same things, other women may simply love all of that and that is entirely their thing, everyone is different.

[a_dub]

Education is absolutely a good start, you just have to watch which education you get. Gossip with girls is good because it comes first hand you know? You learn that hey they do doll themselves up a heck of a lot when I see them at the bar for example. Then ask them as a hypothetical situation what they would prefer a man does when that man may be interested in them. They may say "do not wear a shirt like that guy is wearing over there", okay that is a tip, then move onto how they would like to be talked to, if the girls say "well do not open with you are hot babe" girls want a guy to like them for them not based on how they look. Just go through a whole list of questions and tell your friends that you honestly just want to understand girls more, I absolutely love it when a guy friend of mine who has a hard time getting dates asks me these types of questions because it shows he cares enough to ask another girl for their opinion. Not enough guys show that sort of concern. You can look at girls magazines too, I hate reading them lol but about 70-80% of the material in magazines are just images of how to doll yourself up with X,Y,Z type eyeliner, sparkly eyeshadow, "this is a model with our lipgloss" and so on until you get to the information about girls wanting guys to say A,B,C to them.

On the other side of that is the horrible advice. No offense but your cousin would be an example of that, he says he has not been in a relationship with many girls but he is willing to basically do any girl with a pulse. That is not good relationship advice if he is just using the women as quickie material and off to the next one. If he is now married he may say "dude best advice I can give is to just settle down with a girl and not be all crazy about them like I was before". That sort of advice is good, but the bad advice is things like "yeah bro just hit it and quit it who cares", or "man just hit up that babe she is so drunk right now". If you are looking to settle down with a woman in your life then you should start by not acting like the guy in the bar but the gentleman who opens the door on the street for the nice pretty lady. One tid bit of advice is even if you do not get a girls number or have her go out with you, if you still manage to get her to smile or laugh while talking to her you are well on your way to finding a girl. That alone is a good sign that you are doing something right, so do the same thing with another girl. Many guys cannot get the genuine smile or laugh, they may be able to get the rolling of the eyes smile and laugh but that is not what the goal should be.

Thats really good stuff! My cousin is 23 now (5-6 years younger than I am) and he pretty much sleeps with a new girl every other week, if not every week. He lives in New York City and says the number of readily available sex partners in such a large demographic area means that no one really wants to settle into a relationship. I think he's actually almost gotten into a relationship a few times, but he has this thing where he will not allow himself to get "oneitis". He's basically backed out of relationships with girls he really liked, simply becaause he hates the idea of falling in love. I think he eventually wants to settle down, but I doubt it. Yeah maybe when he's 35, but by that time there probably won't be a woman left on this planet he hasn't already slept with. But on the plus side, relevant to this thread, he would never prefer masturbation over real sex, lol!

Anyways, I digressed quite a bit. One of my close female friends has told me that I need to dress a certain way, and act like a gentleman, and develop some sort of rapport before asking a girl out. Another friend has told me to screw the fear and ask out every single attractive girl I see. So I'm working on that right now, and I feel quite fortunate to have a couple of female friends who I can talk openly about stuff. Oh, and they both hate my reliance on watching porn (I usually watch a few hours every week). But I watch it due to boredom and curiosity...its the closest I can get to sex right at this moment. But maybe their negative reaction is because women are usually less porn-friendly then men are.

[ItsASecret]

I have a couple of women friends who have been coaching me to get over my fear of rejection and approach women I do like. And I read this forum quite regularly, does that count?

Education is absolutely a good start, you just have to watch which education you get. Gossip with girls is good because it comes first hand you know? You learn that hey they do doll themselves up a heck of a lot when I see them at the bar for example. Then ask them as a hypothetical situation what they would prefer a man does when that man may be interested in them. They may say "do not wear a shirt like that guy is wearing over there", okay that is a tip, then move onto how they would like to be talked to, if the girls say "well do not open with you are hot babe" girls want a guy to like them for them not based on how they look. Just go through a whole list of questions and tell your friends that you honestly just want to understand girls more, I absolutely love it when a guy friend of mine who has a hard time getting dates asks me these types of questions because it shows he cares enough to ask another girl for their opinion. Not enough guys show that sort of concern. You can look at girls magazines too, I hate reading them lol but about 70-80% of the material in magazines are just images of how to doll yourself up with X,Y,Z type eyeliner, sparkly eyeshadow, "this is a model with our lipgloss" and so on until you get to the information about girls wanting guys to say A,B,C to them.

On the other side of that is the horrible advice. No offense but your cousin would be an example of that, he says he has not been in a relationship with many girls but he is willing to basically do any girl with a pulse. That is not good relationship advice if he is just using the women as quickie material and off to the next one. If he is now married he may say "dude best advice I can give is to just settle down with a girl and not be all crazy about them like I was before". That sort of advice is good, but the bad advice is things like "yeah bro just hit it and quit it who cares", or "man just hit up that babe she is so drunk right now". If you are looking to settle down with a woman in your life then you should start by not acting like the guy in the bar but the gentleman who opens the door on the street for the nice pretty lady. One tid bit of advice is even if you do not get a girls number or have her go out with you, if you still manage to get her to smile or laugh while talking to her you are well on your way to finding a girl. That alone is a good sign that you are doing something right, so do the same thing with another girl. Many guys cannot get the genuine smile or laugh, they may be able to get the rolling of the eyes smile and laugh but that is not what the goal should be.

[a_dub]

Also, remember you wrote "after" things that you are aware of with women, not in the previous post, I would have said WTF? Seriously? Myself due to the fact you are not 19... So you know... Think before you type, read before you react...

I might not be 19, but my relationships with women haven't been very extensive either. My cousin had sex with more girls by 19 than I have fantasized about in my life, lol. He probably doesn't know half that stuff since he hasn't been in too many relationships either.

It may pay you to gain some women "friends" and gossip with them.. And, in addition read women's magazines, seriously.

I have a couple of women friends who have been coaching me to get over my fear of rejection and approach women I do like. And I read this forum quite regularly, does that count?