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In conclusion, for me at least, I cannot understand why a man would want to use his own hands rather than have the soft hands/mouth/vagina of his female partner bringing him off. There's no competition.

[a_dub]

In conclusion, for me at least, I cannot understand why a man would want to use his own hands rather than have the soft hands/mouth/vagina of his female partner bringing him off. There's no competition.

I guess I'm one of the guys who would fall into this category of people. And here's the rationale although I believe most men (99%) aren't like me.

Now I haven't been with many women in my lifetime, and I haven't been with anyone in almost 2 years. But the girls I have been with, were on average 5s (out of 10). For me, physical attractiveness is kind of important and I can't get a hard on unless I think she's hot, physically speaking. I don't need perfect 10s, but 7s on up are nice. But I've never had the ability to pull girls who are 7s.

So even when I was in a relationship I found myself tugging it quite a bit, and eventually came to prefer it to the girls themselves.

Why?

Its because when I jerk myself off, I've never "been" with a girl who was less than an 8.

Now if I had a beautiful woman who was willing to have sex, would I even think of masturbating? no!

[a_dub]

I've never got that about men. You will have 10 fighting over the hottest girl, the one that just wants your money, the one that makes it clear you not her type... while there are 9 other girls that are almost as pretty, 10 times as sweet and actually interested in them.

They're never "almost as pretty". Men have varying tastes, if the other girls are even 2/3 as hot as the dime, seven of those guys are gonna forget the alpha chick and go for the others. And plenty of guys do go for average looking girls, realizing the dame is either a .. or not a realistic option.

So I have little pity for the 'nice guy' curse, because whenever i see it in action its usually the dillusional guy curse... same goes for women that have been 'treated bad' in every relationship, yet refuse to date any guy that doesn't make it clear up front he's a womanizer dirt bag.

I'll agree here. I am most probably delusional. I'm only an average looking guy, but I want 7s and 8s (if not a 10). Why should I expect that? I dunno. Just the way I am.

Why be with a real woman, that is only average in looks, that will take care of you when you are sick, that will cuddle you after a long hard day and rub your shoulders and be supportive when you can look at a full on jessica biel look-a-like on a monitor? Different strokes for different folks.

Again, call me crazy, but at this point in life I'd rather hope against hope to end up with a really cute girl. I don't need a Victoria Secret model, but someone cute regardless. One day, when I'm 50, if I'm still single, I can always reassess my situation.

I can put a brad pit poster over my bed and fantasize about him night and day, but I'd much rather be with a real man, that looks nothing like brad pitt, that will hold me in his arms and kiss my head when I need it most.

If I can't have Angelina, I'll beat off to her instead. For now at least.

[Goodgirl93]

For me, physical attractiveness is kind of important and I can't get a hard on unless I think she's hot, physically speaking.

Now if I had a beautiful woman who was willing to have sex, would I even think of masturbating? no!

The same applies to my boyfriend,If he doesn't find you attractive,He can't get a hard on no matter how hard he tries. Luckily I get him hard easily. lol

But in all honesty,If you have a high drive,and all he wants to do is use his hand,even though u offer to use ur mouth,hand,"Ect",than there is obviously something wrong. But he wouldn't be with you if he didn't find u attractive,there is something else to that.just talk to him,go from there and hopefully things get better sweetums

[a_dub]

The same applies to my boyfriend,If he doesn't find you attractive,He can't get a hard on no matter how hard he tries. Luckily I get him hard easily. lol

But in all honesty,If you have a high drive,and all he wants to do is use his hand,even though u offer to use ur mouth,hand,"Ect",than there is obviously something wrong. But he wouldn't be with you if he didn't find u attractive,there is something else to that.just talk to him,go from there and hopefully things get better sweetums

Haha...I am the "him". I'm the dude!

Men are a bit different than women. Most of them. A lot of men will have sex with whoever is willing if no one better is around. A lot of my buddies do that or have done that in the past. The way a woman can tell is if a man is having sex with you, but refuses to kiss or make out, he's not that attracted to you. Just because he kisses you, doesn't mean he loves you, but he has to at least find you hot to kiss you during sex. If he just pounds away, he's basically masturbating with your vagina. Thats how I am. Thats how some of my boys are. I'm sure it doesn't apply to all men, but I'd imagine most men are like that. Right boys?

[Goodgirl93]

Haha...I am the "him". I'm the dude!

LMAO,wowwwww well I just woke up from a long night. So um,My bad! hahaha :P

[Goodgirl93]

Men are a bit different than women. Most of them. A lot of men will have sex with whoever is willing if no one better is around. A lot of my buddies do that or have done that in the past.

I will never understand how guys can do that,one night stands,no strings attached,screwing anything just to get an hour or less of pleasure.I mean I have made out with guys,one time thing,life goes on,but I can't even kiss a guy if i'm not attracted to him mentally and atleast somewhat physically. I don't know how guys do it. I give you all kudos for sure. lol

[a_dub]

I will never understand how guys can do that,one night stands,no strings attached,screwing anything just to get an hour or less of pleasure.I mean I have made out with guys,one time thing,life goes on,but I can't even kiss a guy if i'm not attracted to him mentally and atleast somewhat physically. I don't know how guys do it. I give you all kudos for sure. lol

Thats the thing. Most guys can't kiss/make out unless they care either. Same as women. The difference lies in that most men can bone girls they have no interest in, physically or mentally. I can't, but most men can. I have to be attracted to them physically at least. Mentally, I don't give a rat's behind, but they have to be good looking enough to get me aroused.

[Goodgirl93]

Thats the thing. Most guys can't kiss/make out unless they care either. Same as women. The difference lies in that most men can bone girls they have no interest in, physically or mentally. I can't, but most men can. I have to be attracted to them physically at least. Mentally, I don't give a rat's behind, but they have to be good looking enough to get me aroused.

Most definately agreed

[CHANDLERS WISH]

a-dub..

I am C-Dub According to some here...

Its because when I jerk myself off, I've never "been" with a girl who was less than an 8.

Now if I had a beautiful woman who was willing to have sex, would I even think of masturbating? no!

I kind of bet you still would. What about, when she had a headache or was stressed for a week and didn't want sex

It is fair to say that attraction is what makes any person's hormones start raging. But, you'd be suprised at where that attraction can come from if you actually took time to get to know some of those women... Their persona, the way they constantly make you laugh, twirl their hair, all of a sudden visualisation comes into play and they appear "different" to what you origionally saw them as...