[CHANDLERS WISH]

Also, to everyone saying masturbating isn't a sin that's not true. It's definitely considered a sin by the Church as you're giving in to your sexual desires that you're supposed to keep repressed until marriage. Even thinking about sex is a sin.

Chloe you've stated this before, it's your opinion...Other's have stated no where in the Bible does it say masterbation is a sin, that's their opinion...Church are what? People....Humans.....not God.

Also, telling anyone to put their virginity on a pedestal like that is a horrible thing. Just think of what happens to believe who believe that and end up losing it to the "wrong person". They regret something so silly like that for the rest of their lives and their is absolutely no need for it. I mean you and your first husband divorced, was he the right one? Is marriage what decides when someone is right or wrong for you? If I marry someone does that automatically make them perfect for me?

No one has "told"...It's the OP's right if that is what she wants to do, it's the poster's right, if they agree that, if that is what the OP wants to do, and even, if that is her belief of how she should do it, they have a right to agree.

Too many people settle in life, they believe that they are in love, or they purely want to be loved, it's a learning curb, which is what life is all about, to learn from one mistake and not to make it again.

I more so believe that you don't cheat on your other half, you don't have sex with another person whilst in a relationship, and if you are being abused, you have a right to leave, and start again...

Let's not take this thread to religion..

Clearly, we all have different views.

And, clearly the OP has opened up and made it very clear, she fears relationships, she fears being cheated on in marriage and she fears that she will never get married as a result and unless she rids of her fear, of what happened in her childhood, she will not get married either.

Masterbation was one component and it's clear that there are more issues here, than that.

CW

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Why do women spread their legs for any man that offers them a drink in a bar? That can cause much turmoil in their personal lives. What about the women who subscribe to a lifestyle of very risky unprotected sex with countless members simply because they oftentimes want to prove something to themselves despite the great possible aftermath turmoil of disease and unnamed pregnancies. The belief that a girl because of her age should act like a preconceived ideal, that can cause great problems in personal life but people still do it they still act that part. They know it can cause problems but they still consciously decide to act and believe in that manner. Nothing can change their mind but themselves. People choose their lifestyles and support it with whatever notions they believe sound plausible. Whatever comforts them at night is what ideas they will stick to. There is no right or wrong, there is only personal decisiveness which is entirely subjective. Her choice to follow a religious path is not an issue, it is a part of her. Her decisions are going to be made based on what she believes, if she makes a mistake that she believes is a mistake (and not other's telling her she is wrong) then she will learn upon that.

No one is telling anyone to go out and have a bunch of unprotected sex with random strangers for no reason at all.

Her choice to follow a religious path is indeed the issue in this situation because by following that path she is making herself feel guilty for doing something that is completely natural.

[Guest]

Chloe you've stated this before, it's your opinion...Other's have stated no where in the Bible does it say masterbation is a sin, that's their opinion...Church are what? People....Humans.....not God.



No one has "told"...It's the OP's right if that is what she wants to do, it's the poster's right, if they agree that, if that is what the OP wants to do, and even, if that is her belief of how she should do it, they have a right to agree.

Too many people settle in life, they believe that they are in love, or they purely want to be loved, it's a learning curb, which is what life is all about, to learn from one mistake and not to make it again.

I more so believe that you don't cheat on your other half, you don't have sex with another person whilst in a relationship, and if you are being abused, you have a right to leave, and start again...

Let's not take this thread to religion..

Clearly, we all have different views.

And, clearly the OP has opened up and made it very clear, she fears relationships, she fears being cheated on in marriage and she fears that she will never get married as a result and unless she rids of her fear, of what happened in her childhood, she will not get married either.

Masterbation was one component and it's clear that there are more issues here, than that.

CW

Actually, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. You can read the bible yourself.

The people in this thread saying masturbation is not a sin don't know how to read in between the lines.

You're not allowed to think about having sex before marriage. If you're masturbating you're obviously thinking about sex or sexual thoughts. I don't know how I can put it any other way.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Then you 're agreeing, it is not in the Bible, as stipulated over and over, in many articles actually, if you google, your actually suggesting that we need to "read between the lines" to get it.

Irrespective, it's not relevant don't you think? What's relevant is what Waiting Impatiently got so far from her thread, and that was, a fear of what occured in her childhood, a fear of getting married and being cheated on, as she saw in her childhood, the effect it had on her Mother and therefore, an expectation that, that will happen to her, a fear that she may not kiss right, a fear that her fears will force her not to date, therefore not marry.

That was her reply...Nothing to do with her origional thoughts, she's progressed onto a deeper inner thought that this Forum has helped bring out.

Let's stick to topic.

CW

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Then you 're agreeing, it is not in the Bible, as stipulated over and over, in many articles actually, if you google, your actually suggesting that we need to "read between the lines" to get it.
CW

No, it is in the Bible, it just doesn't explicitly say "You can't masturbate". Not like that matters because it probably wasn't even called masturbation back then anyways.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

doesn't explicitly say "You can't masturbate".

There you go.

I suggest you read our FAQ rules thoroughly pertaining to how you can post on this Forum ...


CW

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There you go.

I suggest you read our FAQ rules thoroughly pertaining to how you can post on this Forum ...


CW

The constitution doesn't say that I can't kill African American males that are ages 40-45, but I'm pretty sure they don't have to worry because the part in the constitution that states we cannot cause harm/kill pretty much has that covered.

So when the bible says it's a sin to even have thoughts of something that is sinful, in this case sexual thoughts when you're not married, they probably didn't think they'd have to compile a complete list of sins.

It honestly has nothing to do with interpretation and everything to do with reading comprehension.

All I'm trying to do is get to the root of the problem. If your forum code of conduct doesn't allow for the problem to be brought up then it's only the OP's loss.

[ItsASecret]

To a religious individual it is logical to feel embarrassed and resentful for a sexual act they have just done because their belief system has brought them to that conclusion. That belief system may not be shared by others but to that one individual whom adopts religion it is pure logic. Religious upbringing will result in common knowledge that applies to their daily reasoning. That common knowledge being the words of the Bible. Religion dose not support the notion of self pleasure, it does not like the idea of sex before marriage. But rarely do people follow that exact message. People get curious just like the OP did. There may be feelings of good or bad after wards that can lead to other questions about themselves as they learn and grow older. That is totally okay. How a person decides to live their lives is their decision. If someone is confused they go to others for guidance, but that does not mean they should at the same time abandon their original beliefs.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

If your forum code of conduct doesn't allow for the problem to be brought up then it's only the OP's loss

Discrimination
Our site is open registration to anyone, MALE or FEMALE, with a desire to learn about women's health and discuss related topics. Although we direct our content towards women, this is not a site limited to women. Men are also welcome here, provided they stay on topic. We promote opinions from both sexes.

We also do NOT discriminate based on religious beliefs, cultural differences, or race. EVERYONE is welcome here. We simply ask that each member respects the other's values and opinions and does not attempt to force their own on someone else.

If you can not do that, I suggest you either 1) stop posting on this particular Thread, or 2) don't post on this Forum.

You're continuing to force your opinion and I won't allow it...

CW

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Troll posting:-

1... Creating a thread of ficticious nature - fantasy
2... Posting to wind people up

Given if anyone who hasn't read your thread, that you commenced a dear Aunt Agatha, how to I help my boyfriend, I love him, he has low self esteme, to I slept with his component, then fought with a woman in a ring, had anal sex with her in front of my boyfriend, because I lost and then he did her after.

To choosing this thread, to then talk about religion, The Bible, winding people up and arguing with posters/moderators...

I call TROLL...Chloe for the second time.

Please continue members with this thread.

CW