[Hopeless Dork]

It's difficult for me to wrap my mind around how some women can feel clitoris and g spot AND deep sensation but other women only speak of the clitoris and g spot. How can that be? Aren't women's vaginas all 'basically' designed the same?

No. Women respond very differently and I have NO idea why. One of my friends experience ZERO pleasure with penetration...she told me she only feels any sexual sensation in her clitoris. I have not experienced deep spot orgasms or pleasure or any idea what that feels like for some women I know for me... personally... I can achieve orgasm without any stimulation to my clitoris if my insides are being rubbed in just the right way. I can also achieve orgasm by stimulating my clitoris alone... although when this happens I am CRAVING to feel stimulation on the inside... but can achieve orgasm with clitoral stimulation alone.

I am not a doctor, or a vaginal scientist so I don't know how the nerves are connected to what and why some women feel certain things more pleasurable than others and some feel none.

Just look at men, some can't stand to have their testicles sucked, some love it... some like prostate stimulation some don't. Some feel sexual when their nipples are touched, other don't at all. Some guys feel sexual pleasure from sucking a toe.. some feel repulsed when sucking a toe. Some guys near way rip their penis off when masturbating, some have to have light touches to 'succeed'.

While everyone has similiar parts, the responses to them vary. Could mental, could be physical. Could be associated to how we first started masturbating and what brought us pleasure then we became dependent on a certain type of stimulation, mental or physical etc etc.

But to think women are LYING because they don't all feel the same sort of sensations is way paranoid.

[Hopeless Dork]

PS -- I never said I don't experience sensation in deeper areas.. of course there is sensation. Its not some black hole of empty numbness. I am saying it does nothing in the way of increasing my pleasure... it does nothing in the way of assisting my orgasm. I could take it or leave it... its like a docking spot for the pleasure im getting closer to the opening.

Some guys experience pleasure having their testicles stimulated as they orgasm... some don't want them touched at all, some could careless as it provides no significant difference in stimulation.

Do i think guys are lying? That they either feel something in their balls or they don't ? That if one man feels pleasure in his balls that all men should and the ones that don't have an agenda? Good grief.

[ItsASecret]

Reply to Skywatch

Okay I am going to take a wild guess here and assume you have never read a book or taken a class about anatomy or physiology. I will start off by saying that technically a woman's vagina was never designed for the sole purpose of pleasure. Scientists now believe the only source on the female body in regards to pleasure is the clitoris. They see no other reason to have several thousand nerves being packed into such a small area. The purpose of the vagina is to be able to have children. However thankfully the process of conceiving a child is pleasurable therefore making us want to engage in sex.

It's difficult for me to wrap my mind around how some women can feel clitoris and g spot AND deep sensation but other women only speak of the clitoris and g spot. How can that be? Aren't women's vaginas all 'basically' designed the same?

Anatomically all women's vaginas are "basically" the same. They will have a clitoris, labia, vaginal opening, soft tissue, ect ect ect. Thanks to genetics everything regarding those basic parts will differ.

Sure, the deeper walls don't have as many nerves, but there are still nerves there, so why don't they count to all women?

Because again due to genetic variation not all women will respond to the same stimuli.

'Size doesn't matter' articles and posts typically point out that there aren't as many nerves deeper within, as though fewer nerves equates to a dead void. Why would some women experience stimulation, deep area pleasure from the posterior fornix and possibly also the cul de sac (Pouch of Douglas, located between the vagina's posterior wall and the anal canal) but other women not? Sometimes it seems to me that women who only speak of the clitoris and gspot aren't being 100% honest with themselves.

Oh so due to some women experiencing pleasure from deeper areas other women should be admitting to the same thing? Because all women are the same right?

It seems like there might be some denial going on. I'm not saying there is but notice that women who only speak of those first few inches are always the ones who say size doesn't matter. Am I to believe that those women's deeper nerves have no feeling whatsoever whilst other women do.

No. There is feeling in all women, the nerves are there, not all women have the exact same response to the same stimulation though.

The purpose of nerves is for feeling contact. Even fewer nerves. Wouldn't that at least allow the 'size make no difference' women to feel fullness deeper within? I would think so.

Yes they can feel it, because that is the job of a sensory nerve. I think you are confusing the job of nerves with some personal association that vagina nerves + touch = pleasure. When it comes down to it this is simply not the case. The rate that those nerves fire at, the response of the signals sent, and the relayed biochemistry in the brain are what differs between women who can "feel deep spot please" and those who say "yeah I can feel you poking and proding but I get no pleasure from it". Having different responses does not mean either side of the equation are lying or denying themselves of personal satisfaction, it is completely due to the difference in the body and mind between each and every single woman.

So after the first three inches there is no feeling? The "fewer" nerves have no feeling? There is no doubt that the clitoris and g spot and upper walls' nerves are major players, quite enough for very good sex, but why does that make the rest of the vagina not exist for pleasure?

You want to know why? Babies are the reason. There is enough pain associated with birth, the less nerves in that area firing at the time of birth the better. I do not have a reason for why the first few inches have the majority of nerves though.

And when the size doesn't matter crowd do make any mention of feeling anything deeper within it is only with the negative and dubious logic of the cervix getting nailed by longer penises (nevermind that the when a woman is fully aroused and expanded her cervix is designed to tilt out of the way or mostly out of the way and until then the tilting occurs even shorter penises can reach and hit it), another example of the postings by 'size doesn't matter' women not appearing to be 100% objective.

Are you a woman? If not I am going to assume that you have never had your cervix pounded by accident. Guess what, it hurts. Remember sensory nerves? Well there are sensory nerves that have things called pain receptors, and when those things fire at a good rate...like for example a penis slamming into it, your brain will receive those messages and say "holy carp that hurts". The actual female vagina is 3-5 inches in length, it will relax and accommodate a penis however if it gets too big like 7,8,9 inches it will physically not fit. No matter how tilted the cervix gets there is an end of the road and the end is the painful cervix.

[Hopeless Dork]

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[Guest]

Reply to Skywatch

Okay I am going to take a wild guess here and assume you have never read a book or taken a class about anatomy or physiology. I will start off by saying that technically a woman's vagina was never designed for the sole purpose of pleasure. Scientists now believe the only source on the female body in regards to pleasure is the clitoris. They see no other reason to have several thousand nerves being packed into such a small area. The purpose of the vagina is to be able to have children. However thankfully the process of conceiving a child is pleasurable therefore making us want to engage in sex.



Anatomically all women's vaginas are "basically" the same. They will have a clitoris, labia, vaginal opening, soft tissue, ect ect ect. Thanks to genetics everything regarding those basic parts will differ.



Because again due to genetic variation not all women will respond to the same stimuli.



Oh so due to some women experiencing pleasure from deeper areas other women should be admitting to the same thing? Because all women are the same right?



No. There is feeling in all women, the nerves are there, not all women have the exact same response to the same stimulation though.



Yes they can feel it, because that is the job of a sensory nerve. I think you are confusing the job of nerves with some personal association that vagina nerves + touch = pleasure. When it comes down to it this is simply not the case. The rate that those nerves fire at, the response of the signals sent, and the relayed biochemistry in the brain are what differs between women who can "feel deep spot please" and those who say "yeah I can feel you poking and proding but I get no pleasure from it". Having different responses does not mean either side of the equation are lying or denying themselves of personal satisfaction, it is completely due to the difference in the body and mind between each and every single woman.



You want to know why? Babies are the reason. There is enough pain associated with birth, the less nerves in that area firing at the time of birth the better. I do not have a reason for why the first few inches have the majority of nerves though.



Are you a woman? If not I am going to assume that you have never had your cervix pounded by accident. Guess what, it hurts. Remember sensory nerves? Well there are sensory nerves that have things called pain receptors, and when those things fire at a good rate...like for example a penis slamming into it, your brain will receive those messages and say "holy carp that hurts". The actual female vagina is 3-5 inches in length, it will relax and accommodate a penis however if it gets too big like 7,8,9 inches it will physically not fit. No matter how tilted the cervix gets there is an end of the road and the end is the painful cervix.

Cervix end of the road? Nope. In a doctor run MRI imaging study, a few years back, of a couple having intercourse in the missionary position and also in the 'doggy' position, even though those two positions did vary from one another in that it did change the projectory the penis still went by the cervix. In the missionary position the more of a pushing on the cervix was made than in the doggy position, but the penis was going by nevertheless. In missionary the anterior fornix was more like the the 'end of the road' so to speak, though it's wall could have been stretched further if he had been longer. In the doggy position the posterior fornix and posterior wall were the 'end of the road' so to speak, though once again not really since he wasn't long enough to push her posterior wall to it's limit (his penis 6.25" long). The cervix during doggy was only very lightly being made contact with as it was well to the side. In missonary position her vagina depth was shorter than when in doggy.

[Goodgirl93]

The actual female vagina is 3-5 inches in length, it will relax and accommodate a penis however if it gets too big like 7,8,9 inches it will physically not fit. No matter how tilted the cervix gets there is an end of the road and the end is the painful cervix.

Really? Hmm I guess we all learn something new everyday. haha Nah,I knew that if a penis is longer than about 6.5 inches,typically it won't fit,but if he is gentle wouldn't it all fit? Just a thought.

[WildChild]

Oh piffle, I had a bf who was 10", no problem at all. I'm not a big woman. 5'6" and at that time about 117 lbs. I don't think I'm physically unusual.

[Goodgirl93]

Really? WOW that's way big! Well I'm 5'7" (I think) and I don't think ill be growing. Lol But if you could handle 10" than I'm sure 7,8,9, has to be possible.

[ItsASecret]

By the time full relaxation of all vaginal tissues occurs a larger penis can often fit but there will be a point when the tissues say nuh uh no more. Sure there are women that can "easily take 8-9+ inches", but does it mean that it will comfortably fit? I would not put my money on it for a majority of women. There will be pushing against the cervix if a penis is larger or if it manages to hit it in a different position. My reference was to once you hit the cervix you are going to feel pressure, and the end of the road for many is the frequent pain associated with it. A good chunk of women will experience a sharp painful pressure, some will claim its not so bad or simply non-existent, either way it is going to be hit in those circumstances of position or above average penis length.

[Guest]

Oh piffle, I had a bf who was 10", no problem at all. I'm not a big woman. 5'6" and at that time about 117 lbs. I don't think I'm physically unusual.

Not as unusual as many would think.

Mandingo is advertised as 11.75". He's more like 10.5". I've watch very many of his videos. He's had sex with a number of female porn stars, but he's had many more female amateurs. The thing about female amateurs is it doesn't matter how much they can take. Whether she can't handle a lot, can handle sort of a lot, or can handle very much, there is an audience and money to be made. His females typically do look pretty good, so that is requirement. And he has just about the same routine with every chick. The least I've seen any chicks able to take is 7.5". In other words there was 3" of penis still out in the deepest position. That has been the case with about 50% of the white women, couldn't get more than approximately 7.5" in. The other 50% of white women taking more than 7.5", some as much as 10.5". All of the black women have taken at least 8.5" (leaving 2" out). About 33% of the black women haven't been able to get more than 8.5" in. 66% of black women have taken more than 8.5", 11.5" being the max (11.5" max is estimated, see explanation below).

So the range for the white women has been 7.5" to 10.5". About 5% of the white women have gotten all or just about all of him in, but barely able to do so. About 10% of the black women have not only gotten all of him in but some seemed capable of taking more. Since the range for white women is 7.5" - 10.5" it appears that the range for black women is 8.5" - 11.5" (the 11.5" is an estimate based on ability to take 10.5" and the difference in starting ranges between the two races).

Don't take my word for it, or automatically reject it, watch his videos. Btw, I don't believe this to be racist at all. There is nothing negative in my posting. I'm merely providing the data as it occurs. I started out just looking to see how much women as a whole could handle in 'max', and then I began also paying attention to the amounts in 'least' and then I began noticing that the least amounts and max amounts were differing between the races. I'm an objective data numbers guy, always have been. If there had been no difference I would have posted it. If it had been the other way around I would have posted it.

I realise this data will be auto rejected by those who believe the average of all races are the same or about the same. I realise my post will be viewed upon by some as racist. Some have the politically correct bar set too high. I'm a white guy who grew up and live in an area 50% black. I'm had many good times with many black friends. Having grown up as a kid with black neighbors I never thought in racist terms as a kid. Didn't know anything about it. I later on in life learned about racism. This isn't racist. Don't be this sensitive. I also realise that this will be auto rejected because it falls under the porn category. No matter the circumstances surrounding the data, it's porn therefore it's rejected as not credible.