[maleview]

Skippy,
I am not sure where you are going with all of this higher ego development talk, but i agree that size has nothing to do with the ability to procreate. It seems to me that you are quite asexual believing that people should be able to rise above what feels good. I do not understand the purpose of denying oneself of what feels good in a loving relationship. Are you classifying my wife as a lower developed individual just because she occasionally likes me to use larger toys on her when she is really aroused? Or is it enough to just not care that I am not that size? She tells me she prefers me the way I am for everyday but occassionally likes a little more with the toy. I say there is nothing wrong with that. Like I said before, I think most women are fine with anything that is around the average (4.5-7") but do care when it is outside of that. I also believe there are enough women who prefer outside average to accomodate the men that are outside average in either direction.

[ItsASecret]

I am a curious person and you really seem to like to throw the words "ego" "psychology" and "research" around quite a bit. Ego is quite the subject to use (those with background would know how complex it gets). I have taken too many psych courses to care anymore (I hate the stuff but I am quite familiar with it) but as purely a question of curiosity and having nothing to do with penis size may I ask if you have any background in any sort of psychology or research? Or did you happen to Google some stuff over time to develop the desire to use the word/concept "ego" several times based on the articles here and there? Ego in psychology actually has it's routes in Freudian work...one odd man that guy was lol but that is the true ego development, then Erikson picked up on it and then following people like Loevinger who created some stages (there are many others with their own thoughts on 'ego' type development). It is far more complex than saying "you do not have high ego". So I am simply curious as to which ego developmental theory you base your thoughts on simply because you speak of ego so much. It would help others too to know which type of thought you support because they may be interested in the whole subject of ego development and obviously would need to be narrowed in towards information so they can follow your thoughts.

Maybe this thread is starting to die out. And perhaps that is good because, as I’ve stated a few times, I do not have the time to continue to write long replies back. So, let me just add a few summary thoughts.

I think this thread is a microcosm of larger society. There are women of higher ego development – like Fallen – who have outlined that size does not matter at all. Higher ego development, based on real psychological research, are those people who have a solid ego and can learn to think beyond their self-oriented needs (people of lower ego development begin and end their thinking with themselves in the center and can’t move beyond personal preferences and have difficulty changing oneself to accommodate others). I think there are more women in general, on and off this websiter, who are like this. Then there are the women of lower ego development that want a certain size and their answers seem to begin and end with their sexual desires. And then there are the women in the middle and other women who have measured just for the fun of it. In the end, I am left with three thoughts (1) although I do not support it, I can see how measuring can be a fun and goofy thing to do, (2) I think more women than not could care less about penis size, and (3) for those women who do (and men who care about their own size or female breasts) they communicate lower ego development when they do care. They seem more cro-magnum like, less human.

LanaBear:

Two quick thoughts about your last post.

First, and most important, I do not have disgust for women – keep in mind the obvious, this site is a site for women and there are many more women than men here. I would equally disagree with any man who argued that penis or breast size matters. In fact, overall and in general, I think women have much greater ego development than men and I have found women to be much more intelligent and empathetic, comparative to men.

Second, since you brought up the concept of depression, people with lower ego development – that think of themselves more than others – are the people who tend to be more depressed in life, than those who have flexible personalities that can balance thinking of self and thinking of others. I would argue that the majority of people who feel their sex life is not compatible are people who are either selfish in their sexual desires or have partners who are selfish. It is the concept of selfishness and ego development that are problematic, not the actual size of a penis or breasts. If you have two partners who care more about their partners sexual desires, they will each focus on the giving side of sex and in the process make sex great for both people.

[Tannarie]

I know my boyfriend's size because he kept saying he was small, which he is not, (I care more about his amazing ability to use it rather than the size) so I measured it to try and show him to be a bit more proud of himself, you know to be more confident about his blessing. In the end it worked.

[TaraLynn]

Lets see, my ex husbands was about 7" long when we got together (we were goofing off with a tape measure) but as time went on and he gained a ton of weight he "shrunk" to close to about 3.5". It got to the point that i could not feel him at all no matter what position we tryed. Now, with my current husband, i got curious one night an asked if i could measure him. I found out why the trojan magnim condoms were too small. Our first time together felt like it was my very first time ever.

[LanaBear]

Bottom line Skippy, you can't begrudge (which you do!!!) any woman for wanting what she wants. Plenty of men do it, so why can't women? Read some of the hundreds (possibly THOUSANDS) of threads from both men and women who stayed in relationships that they knew from the beginning they were not sexually compatible. Here they are YEARS and YEARS and YEARS later, more depressed than ever because they knew from day one that they were not sexually compatible with this person but stayed in the relationship anyways. It does nobody any good to stay in a relationship in which they are not 100% satisfied, mentally, emotionally, physically and sexually, ESPECIALLY in the early stages.

So whether Jane wants a man with a bigger than average wenis or Joe wants a size 0, that is THEIR prerogative. There is somebody out there for everybody, so why get locked into a relationship with someone who you don't feel sexually compatible with when there is someone else out there for the both of you who WILL be sexually compatible with you.

Not saying you or anybody has to agree with it, but that's just the way of life. You seem to have this deep seated disgust for any person with a vagina and boobs, this has been proven time and time again in your posts. You can do no wrong, but holy carp, anybody with an opposing view (especially a woman) is the Antichrist. YOU are the one making such a big stink over posts that don't fit into your beliefs of right or wrong. The world isn't that black and white, get over it.

Like Little stated, there is no denying that there are size queens out there, they've posted on this forum. There is no denying that there are plenty of men who want the petite size 0 blonde with big knockers. We learn to live with it and move on with our lives. Find somebody for us that is our other half, who compliments us as a person.

I do understand that you should fall in love with the person, not the "package", however, when you and someone have that compatibility, sexually, it tends to make things better for many people. Why wouldn't you want to fall in love with someone and make sure you were compatible in every way possible with them? Sexual incompatibility hurts a lot of relationships.

I have no personally measured my fiances penis, but from what he told me it makes sense. My exes I did take a ruler and measure it, but only because we were joking around. It was just something we did out of pure goofiness. Otherwise, I've never measured another penis besides that one.

what are the sizes, just out of curiousity?

[CHANDLERS WISH]

I liked the bar a great deal more as well.

Off course you do my dear, we women, all like the bar...

[Little]

I wasn't sure if the other graph format would show up right on the site, so I stuck with the JPG version. Though I must say, I liked the bar a great deal more as well.

[GnR]

Maybe it's just me, but penis size does matter to me. Sorry, but I have to be physically attracted to a guy at a 1" penis just isn't going to cut it! I have measured guys just for fun, and it was my idea. I once had a very small guy offer to measure it for me, but I really did not want to know.