[Beththebutterfly]

Just for my two cent . I have been married a while and never measured my husbands penis. I just never felt the need to know......One time he did say it was 6 and a quarter inches though ..So I guess he needed to know.Like most men seem to know there size.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

PS: JNS, Max, other valued male long term members, excluding you off course you have the same tendencies, must be able to be in tune with your feminine side

[CHANDLERS WISH]

For some reason Little, I feel like putting my finger in your hair there, as you smile and twist a curl?

There is something to be said about women.

We strive for perfection, we strive for jumping over hurdles, we strive for finding if at all possible resolution, other methods, ways, results and we strive at compassion...

Whilst we, as women have in-securities, we see the positives as much as possible... I now wonder if men are so different from us, all they see is hurt.

Guess we were the lucky genders to be born.

[Little]

I never said that "you can focus on other aspects." That was you. I said that some people don't put as high a value on penetrative sex (and others mentioned that some don't put any value on it at all,) and that perhaps those with truly below-averaged sized penises who have esteem issues concerning them could pursue those who concentrate on other methods of sexual satisfaction.

Don't twist my words.

I do not have time to make a long reply -- I will try later tonight or tomorrow or even Tuesday. But let me add that I think the last few responses by everyone -- including Little's -- related to Troop are great. I echo the mind of matter thought of CW and her question. Likewise, I agree with Little that you can focus on other aspects.

My comments -- although stern and explcit -- were not meant to be put downs to anyone. I will chime in more later -- but am committed to smoothing out the tension.

[Little]

Skippy, CW just outlined for me what parts of my post were indeed taking Troop's feelings into account. You chose to ignore them and bring me down instead, AND you continue to insist that my NEEDS are not that at all, and desires instead. Try re-reading my last post and actually listening to what I'm saying. Oh, wait! You don't listen to ANYTHING your dissenters say on this board. You can compliment me all you like, but if you're not actually hearing my points, there is only insult.

Troop, I don't want you to be hurt because I'm expressing what MY needs are in a relationship. I'm a married woman who, for all I know, may be on the other side of the globe from you. In the event that I met you, dated you, and liked you, only to find out that your penis was 3" or less, I'd certainly give you a fair shot, because who knows? I can only SUPPOSE that 3" would be my cutoff, as I've not been in that situation nor had to make that choice. But in the event that I, as your imaginary partner, had to choose between a lack of sexual satisfaction, possibly for the rest of our lives, or continuing an unfulfilling relationship just to ensure you feel good about your penis size, know that if I chose #2, the unhappiness in bed would eventually spill into the rest of our lives and slowly make us miserable. A woman who gives you a tactful, caring, and respectful breakup is committing the lesser evil than the woman who would essentially lead you on only to hurt you in bigger ways later.

[Hopeless Dork]

The thing with most women, if you win their heart, whats in your pants isn't relevent. I, like another poster mentioned, am very much attached to penetrative sex. So a big enough of a penis to facilitate that is important to me... but like that other poster mentioned -- it would be very rare that a man would be so small as to not be able to do that. A man that enjoys bj's would probably only be compatible for so long, or be only so happy with a woman that refuses to indulge him...Same for a woman that enjoys the feeling of penetrative sex, to be with a man that can't facilitate that , would lead to frustration. But given that many women are fully capable of achieving immense pleasure from a finger... the average penis size even a significantly below average size could facilitate that same penetrative pleasure.

For those men that happen to fall off the scale and are even smaller than a finger.. that does not mean there is not a woman that will appreciate that. There are many women to which penetrative sex is horrid... painful, they don't enjoy it and would prefer a man with a smaller penis.

That being said, when a woman is into you... in to you, whether your 4 inches or 9 -- completely makes no difference. She will not love you less or more either way. Some men are attracted to the visual of big perky boobs... those big perky boobs don't make the least bit of difference on how good the sensation in his penis is during sex... but its a visual/mental componant of their attraction and therefore, pleasure. In that same vein... there are women that are attracted to the visual of a large penis, it might not make sex ANY better than it would with a man with a smaller penis.. but its a mental/visual componant of their sexual attraction, and therefore pleasure.

When you talk about women bragging about their man's size... meh, its not all women that do that... any more than its all men that sit around discussing their conquests and thump their chests. There are men that do, there are women that do and there are plenty that don't. Its more of a human nature thing than a male/female thing when it comes to boasting.

While some men may sit and brag about how firm and round their date lasts nights rear end was, or her nice "rack", some women may brag about how large a man is, or his oral abilities, etc... some people just do that, who knows why??

I will admit that I am a female that actually enjoys looking at attractive penises lol. I think they are amazing Thats just a visual/emotional componant of sexual arousal for me. Size is not much of a factor. I have no idea how many inches my bf is, I've never measured him, never asked, never would. I just think his equipment is beautiful and satisfying.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Troop.

Was thinking, hope you don't mind, I have a question for you.

I appreciate that it's hard to be dealt with something you feel is in-adequate and there as fickle women in this world, just as much as there are users and cruel men.

And, that there are also women whom honestly get drawn in by charisma, charm and end up in bed with a man, whom is smaller than perhaps the last man she slept with that still will sleep with him and treat him right.

For you the key is mind over matter, you don't mind and they don't matter, what matters is, we all find positives with negatives, so learn the art of charisma, charm, and oral sex, trust me, I am not lying when I said I felt it....

And I am older than anyone here, darn

My question is this.... Do you get envious of women with larger breast that get them done, because let's face it, you can't get your penis enlarged ... Gender, do you envy gender? I'm just curious on a physcological point of view seeing as I've studied it, and if so, why?

I'm not hi-jacking OP both topics were derived by you.

In the event that this thread gets closed, Troop answer on your thread.

CW

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Little

Troop.
But regardless of another person's preferences concerning penis size in a partner, only you can control how you feel about your own penis size. This is a body part whose size cannot be easily changed, and anybody who disparages you for it is short-sighted and downright mean. The women who cheated on you and told you it was because of your size probably had their own issues, but chose to dump on you instead of addressing them. Don't punish yourself because of their immaturity.

I think you could have had greater empathy related to Troop's thoughts and you could have been more thoughtful with your words.

In reply to Little's comment to Troop.

Troop? I second Little's "empathetic" comments because it's true.. I have no idea what the OP is talking about.

I also dated a guy with approximately a 3 inch can't say, never measured it and his oral was the best I have ever experienced in my whole entire life, guess he mastered it, he was so not in-adequate therefore, as I jumped his bones, so quickly and felt everything, because a woman's body will also adjust to size.

Think on that note.

[ItsASecret]

Where I differ is that I think another strategy than the one you suggested -- learning to change desires rather than outlining personal preference-- is another strategy.

Another strategy is to believe that others opinions and practices will always differ no matter the context being put forth and to leave it at that simple concept.