[Guest]

It may go completely against the male stereotype, but sex is the last thing im after. I want love that goes beyond sex. A bond that doesnt have any kind of reliance on sex.

[LisaW1991]

My first girlfriend was the love of my life. I'd have done anything for that woman. I used to drive 40 miles every night just to spend some time with her once we got serious. I'd book random weekends away and we'd have the most incredible conversations. She would ask me to sing for her and I did. We'd write songs together.

I remember one night picking her up and taking her to a monument on a mountain and we just lay there together looking at the sky.

Im a romantic man. And I did love her, more than anything. More than you can imagine.

Do you know how it feels to be told by your partner that she just wants to 'make a few more mistakes', and then to be told that the size of your penis was always an issue. By someone you cared about so much that if she had grown boils on her face you'd still see her the same way as the day you met?

THAT is shallow.

Well that is shallow, and very very very puzzling for me because when I discuss sex with my sisters or my female friends, the size of guy never comes up, or extremely rarely. My sister has commented on size a few times, but that is when she has had sex with a guy that is larger than average, but never once has she ever commented about a guy being too small. I can't ever recall any of my female friends saying any of their BFs were too small. And none of them would consider 7 inches small. Being small would be under 5, but so what, as least as far as I'm concerned. No doubt there are lots of shallow girls out there who only date guys with lots of money and have huge erections. Fine by me, because I don't date guys based on those factors, so I guess some body has too....

[azalea]

But one thing's always struck me in my relationships; I don't always feel a hell of a lot during penetrative sex.

I've had around 6 sexual partners and I've only given two of them vaginal orgasms (unless they faked it) and it felt like a real workout.

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I know some girls prefer humongous penises (and also believe that if other women tried them they would too) and some girls are fine with average, but just gimme it straight, is my penis too thin for my woman to enjoy the finalé?

Many females are actually not able to have vaginal orgasms. Most are able to orgasm through clitoral stimulation, but not all are able to orgasm through vaginal penetration. Personally, I've never had an orgasm during intercourse, regardless of penis size. One of my exboyfriends had so much girth that it actually hurt, and I still did not orgasm. It's possible that the two partners you had who had vaginal orgasms were the only ones capable of it.

I had a partner once whose penis was small enough that it barely stayed in, but I think the key is really the position. You need to find a position, possibly using a piece of furniture, to get your partner at the right angle (like putting a pillow or wedge under the girl's pelvis during missionary.) I even do this with my current boyfriend, even though he is a good size, simply because it feels better and is easier.

Personally I think length is more important than girth, but the experience of sex definitely isn't all about intercourse. You can certainly drive a girl completely crazy by giving a lot of attention to her body; sensual massage, oral sex, etc. It really depends on the girl, but I think most girls probably love it when a guy pays lots of attention to all the details and finds out what makes her tick. The best sex partners I ever had weren't the best because of size, but because of how they handled it.

[I'm On My Way]

I've registered with the only purpose of replying in this thread.

I'm 19 and I have the exact same issues as the OP.

I constantly measure my tool and everytime I have sex with my girlfriend (also of 3 years) the idea of "she can barely feel you" comes to mind.

It began 1/2 a year ago when we broke up for 2-3 months and she had sex with another guy (her 2nd, I'm her 1st). We came back together shortly after. When she told me about her "experience", all I could ask is "was he bigger than me?" which she replied with "I can't remember, it was so terrible and felt so wrong and I'm sorry I every did it" and then constantly tried to reassure my about my size - "you're big enough for me", "your **** is perfectly fine". It destroyed me.

Anyway I knew the truth - she stopped being as sexual as before, stopped telling me I'm her "sex god", she used to say "I want your big ****" etc and guess what? not anymore.

Feels like my masculinity has been crushed with no way back.

I know I'm not THAT small (15cm length, 12.2cm girth) but I can barely hold against others.

[Claret]

Medi - Right now I think you are arguing with yourself and I feel that you will continue to do so because in that way you can agree with yourself and get your own validation. You may get other validation from some (notice some) people, you will not get validation from others. You've got your mind made up that you're right. In the long run you'll miss out on some pretty fabulous potential partners along the way.

[Guest]

Medi - Right now I think you are arguing with yourself and I feel that you will continue to do so because in that way you can agree with yourself and get your own validation. You may get other validation from some (notice some) people, you will not get validation from others. You've got your mind made up that you're right. In the long run you'll miss out on some pretty fabulous potential partners along the way.

Complete and utter psychobabble.

Youre trying to tell me my experience is wrong.
When I meet a woman, as always, and decide to go into something, it wont be sex or breast size I choose her on. It'll be who she is.

My experience, has taught me, that when that happens and we go to bed, my penis will be an issue.

If you want to tell my life experience it's wrong and invalid, go right ahead. But it isnt wrong. And it's very valid.

[Guest]

I'm On My Way; Of course she can remember. And you know it. You arent stupid.

If youd had sex with someone other than your partner, would you forget whether her breats were bigger or smaller??

To be honest mate, dont listen to anyone that says 'forget about it'. Its eating you up, so you shouldn't have to force it under.

Confront your girlfriend and tell her what you just told us.

[Stillness]

How we view the world, what we see in other people, and the type of people we attract tend to reflect what we are inside. The way you've responded to people who are trying to help you on this thread (and giving you accurate, honest information in my opinion) says a lot about your attitude.

Most every one has had their heart broken. A lot of us go through an all-opposite-sex-are-jerks phase. I have. Anyone that has been around long enough will understand your sentiment to some degree. The girl whose heart I broke (the one with the body that would mesmerize a man) asked me years later if it was because her breasts were too small. It wasn't. But it broke my heart that all those years she had gone around feeling inadequate about her body. Maybe her brothers had made fun of her. Maybe other men who were being crude to her and trying to control her did the same. That's what some people do. They tell a person that they're ugly, fat, have a small penis, bad in bed, etc. to manipulate them or hurt them. They play on any insecurity they pick up on and hit them where it hurts. You're a fool if you fall for it - even if the one playing on the insecurity is yourself.

Also, you're woefully misinformed about female sexuality. Don't feel too bad about it, because it's mysterious to many men and women - including me. But after decades of marriage, other sexual relationships, reading, and discussing I know that the vagina is not typically a gaping circular hole. It adjusts to whatever is placed inside of it. You're misunderstanding whatever study you cite (assuming it's credible). You're also ignoring the facts. Like the fact that many women can get pleasure from one or two fingers. Women's vaginas can hold tampons, which are smaller than you're penis. Many dildos and vibrators designed for a woman's pleasure are smaller than the average penis. What do you make of that? Why are you only accepting information that feeds into this insecurity you have?

Yes, your penis size matters. Everything matters. The question is, how much and to whom?

[Guest]

How we view the world, what we see in other people, and the type of people we attract tend to reflect what we are inside. The way you've responded to people who are trying to help you on this thread (and giving you accurate, honest information in my opinion) says a lot about your attitude.

Most every one has had their heart broken. A lot of us go through an all-opposite-sex-are-jerks phase. I have. Anyone that has been around long enough will understand your sentiment to some degree. The girl whose heart I broke (the one with the body that would mesmerize a man) asked me years later if it was because her breasts were too small. It wasn't. But it broke my heart that all those years she had gone around feeling inadequate about her body. Maybe her brothers had made fun of her. Maybe other men who were being crude to her and trying to control her did the same. That's what some people do. They tell a person that they're ugly, fat, have a small penis, bad in bed, etc. to manipulate them or hurt them. They play on any insecurity they pick up on and hit them where it hurts. You're a fool if you fall for it - even if the one playing on the insecurity is yourself.

Also, you're woefully misinformed about female sexuality. Don't feel too bad about it, because it's mysterious to many men and women - including me. But after decades of marriage, other sexual relationships, reading, and discussing I know that the vagina is not typically a gaping circular hole. It adjusts to whatever is placed inside of it. You're misunderstanding whatever study you cite (assuming it's credible). You're also ignoring the facts. Like the fact that many women can get pleasure from one or two fingers. Women's vaginas can hold tampons, which are smaller than you're penis. Many dildos and vibrators designed for a woman's pleasure are smaller than the average penis. What do you make of that? Why are you only accepting information that feeds into this insecurity you have?

Yes, your penis size matters. Everything matters. The question is, how much and to whom?

Yes. That's exactly how I feel. 'Women are jerks'. You hit the nail on the head. It mattered to people I'd been with. That was enough to set me off.

I don't hate women, it's the opposite. I cared too much about people that hurt me and I'm afraid I'm inadequate for them, that I dont fill the checklist of criteria, and eventually all women are going to end up the same way a large portion of my partners have.

It's easier to be stand offish than it is to invest again. I put a lot into these past relationships and I got burned time and time again.

I just haven't known any different.

Perhaps you're right and perhaps a woman will come along and change all that. I hope she does.

[Claret]

Complete and utter psychobabble.

Youre trying to tell me my experience is wrong.
When I meet a woman, as always, and decide to go into something, it wont be sex or breast size I choose her on. It'll be who she is.

My experience, has taught me, that when that happens and we go to bed, my penis will be an issue.

If you want to tell my life experience it's wrong and invalid, go right ahead. But it isnt wrong. And it's very valid.

I'm trying to tell you that you asked us "women" for our opinions. We've given you our opinions. You've discounted each opinion and told us were nuts (ismw). So, why should we bother giving you the time and effort to write our thoughts and opinions down, when you have already made up your mind that our opinions are wrong.

We can only discuss our point of view. We cannot speak for any individual you asked previously.

So, I for one think further conversation should be closed unless you can objectively discuss what we are saying and gain some insight from the female perspective.