[Stillness]

There's a difference between and answer being contradictory and you not understanding it. Many people derive satisfaction from sex without orgasm. I don't, but my wife does. She doesn't really like to climax with anything other than my penis, which doesn't happen every time. If it doesn't she'd prefer to go without even though I can easily give her an orgasm in a few minutes 100% of the time. I'm with you on the huge sex toys, though. I don't want anything bigger than me. Again, it's all individual preference. Generalities are often wrong when it comes to sexuality.

And even if those 10 women were genuinely dissatisfied with your penis and selfish, there are 3.5 billion women in the world. They're all individuals.

[Guest]

There's a difference between and answer being contradictory and you not understanding it. Many people derive satisfaction from sex without orgasm. I don't, but my wife does. She doesn't really like to climax with anything other than my penis, which doesn't happen every time. If it doesn't she'd prefer to go without even though I can easily give her an orgasm in a few minutes 100% of the time. I'm with you on the huge sex toys, though. I don't want anything bigger than me. Again, it's all individual preference. Generalities are often wrong when it comes to sexuality.

And even if those 10 women were genuinely dissatisfied with your penis and selfish, there are 3.5 billion women in the world. They're all individuals.

Exactly. If a woman asked me to bring a huge toy in the room I'd kick her out the door and throw her clothes out a few moments later.

Just like she would do if I told her her breasts and bum werent big and round enough.

I actually don't care about sex. I can do without. I don't make every moment of my life about pleasing women but if we're gonna have sex I want real sex. Yea I'll make her come before I go at it with my penis. But I am not putting a huge toy in her, watching her writhe while I sit there like the cuckolded husband. Not a chance of it.

If she doesn't like my penis, that's her problem, not mine.

But, I enjoy women's company. I enjoy having a partner, someone I connect with and someone who I can relate with. I enjoy having meals and going places. I enjoy scenery together. I enjoy the lunches and the dinners and I enjoy the movie nights and the banter.

It isnt me who makes sex an issue. To be frank, I'd be happy with wham-bam-thankyou-mam or no sex at all but I dont do that; because women desire more than that.

So I do my best to satisfy her in foreplay. But intercourse is often not pleasureable for her. That isn't an issue Ive created, that's been a fact.

If she thinks that's so important that she can't stick around, even though the actual relationship is great, that's her problem
And somewhat societies fault for promoting the idea that leaving someone because of that is okay.
The real issue it creates for me is that women I love and care about keep climbing up the male specimen ladder and just dont hang around.

So what are my realistic options?

Find a small woman that I just happen to be in love with. Get a penis enlargement. Or stop having relationships.

The first two are practically impossible. So that leaves me with the third.

[rcoreyus]

I think you may be confusing pleasure and orgasm. There are lots of things that are very pleasurable: kisses, stroking, massages, etc. , that generally do not result in anyone having an orgasm. Most women don't orgasm just from intercourse, but that doesn't mean that they don't enjoy it. Most people like to have an orgasm sometime in a lovemaking session, but it doesn't need to be just through intercourse. Since most women can't orgasm just from intercourse (whatever size penis their partner has), then it must be other things that are important.

I simply don't feel threatened by a piece of plastic. If I were with a woman who enjoyed fisting, should I feel threatened by my own hand? I think you missed part of the point - sometimes she feels like using a big toy, sometimes not. Bigger is not better - it is different. Toys, vibrators, are like oral sex, fingers, etc - they add variety to lovemaking. I doubt anyone wants to keep repeating the same pattern for years on end.

As I said, look at sex toys designed for women. They are not all 2" in diameter, in fact the most common ones are about the size you say that you are.

If you remain convinced that "bigger is better", then you and almost every male on the planet are doomed to feeling inadequate. Penis sizes vary, and with billions of people out there, there will always be someone bigger. Unless you are a male porn star, it really isn't whats important.

If the women you are finding are all concerned about size, them maybe you are not looking in the right places for a partner.

[Guest]

I think you may be confusing pleasure and orgasm. There are lots of things that are very pleasurable: kisses, stroking, massages, etc. , that generally do not result in anyone having an orgasm. Most women don't orgasm just from intercourse, but that doesn't mean that they don't enjoy it. Most people like to have an orgasm sometime in a lovemaking session, but it doesn't need to be just through intercourse. Since most women can't orgasm just from intercourse (whatever size penis their partner has), then it must be other things that are important.

I simply don't feel threatened by a piece of plastic. If I were with a woman who enjoyed fisting, should I feel threatened by my own hand? I think you missed part of the point - sometimes she feels like using a big toy, sometimes not. Bigger is not better - it is different. Toys, vibrators, are like oral sex, fingers, etc - they add variety to lovemaking. I doubt anyone wants to keep repeating the same pattern for years on end.

As I said, look at sex toys designed for women. They are not all 2" in diameter, in fact the most common ones are about the size you say that you are.

If you remain convinced that "bigger is better", then you and almost every male on the planet are doomed to feeling inadequate. Penis sizes vary, and with billions of people out there, there will always be someone bigger. Unless you are a male porn star, it really isn't whats important.

If the women you are finding are all concerned about size, them maybe you are not looking in the right places for a partner.

That's your view. And obviously you dont mind emasculation. But sorry, I do.

Maybe I dont buy into the desperation of nowadays; but im not willing to give up my self respect and masculinity just because some woman thinks she deserves whatever she asks for in bed and that her pleasure is the be all and end all

My schlong is either big enough (because she isnt having any bigger) or she can go stuff.
It isnt the point of a piece of plastic. Im sure women wouldnt feel threatened by a bit of rubber in itself, the same way, but if I asked for a tighter fleshlight rather than my partners vagina she'd feel the same way I would with a toy; inadequate.

[Guest]

This is from a vaginal cavity study done with injection moulding on unaroused women.

. ''In these women, all Caucasian, vaginal lengths ranged from almost 7 to almost 15 centimeters (2.75–6 in) with DIAMETERS BETWEEN 2.4 AND 6.5 CM (1–2.5 INCHES). A later study classified the diversity of vaginal shapes: conical, parallel sides, heart, slug, and pumpkin seed. ''

My ERECT penis works out at 1.35 inches diameter.

That's only 0.3 inches above the MINIMUM UNAROUSED vaginal diameter.

And likely less than the aroused equivalent.

So even the slimmest vaginas are too wide.

Ever wonder why most women dont get orgasms from intercourse? Most men are too small.

Vaginas need big penises.

[rcoreyus]

You said "Maybe I dont buy into the desperation of nowadays; but im not willing to give up my self respect and masculinity just because some woman thinks she deserves whatever she asks for in bed and that her pleasure is the be all and end all"

Pretend you are one of your partners and read what you wrote. Is it possible that some of that attitude is visible? You seem to view sex as a chore you must perform for women.

And I don't feel emasculated, I have no desire to buy a monster truck. I have a wife I love, who loves me, and who is attentive to me in bed as I am to her. The things that are wrong with my life are not related to how well endowed I am.

[Guest]

Its probably why women initiate 80% of divorces too.

#WomenLie

[Guest]

Im saying that now. I didnt think that way 3 months ago the day before i got pi$$ed on.

Is a womans pleasure the be all and end all???

[Guest]

At the end of the day mate. I had no issues with my relationship. I did what I did and I was out for someone else. And they were the ones with the issue.

I think you have a hard time accepting that women just simply want a bigger, fatter penis that they can screw because they like good intercourse with a big penis.

If there was a preference on penis size, it would be pretty big. That's what Ive read from the forums.

Ive no problem accepting that. I just dont like being the one left behind.

Do women deserve everything that they ask for in bed? Is their pleasure the be all and end all?

If not then I was right in what I said. It shouldnt be, but nowadays it is.

[Guest]

Like I said though, regardless of women's preferences, I dont really give a hoot.

If she wants a bigger penis, she can do without. And if she makes it an issue, she can shove off.

I wont make anything about her looks or her sexual prowess an issue, but if she decides to do that, thats her problem.

Mate. Women like big penises. It's a well known fact. Women are too afraid to say it for the risk of offence, but if men didnt have egos and you sat every woman down , who had actually had sex enough times to be comfortable about it, and asked them do you prefer that smaller penis or do you want that big one i just put in front of you, theyd all choose the big one.

I just wish it wasnt an issue they thought was worthy of breaking your heart over.

Women care much more about sex than I do.