[Little]

Well said.

I feel bad calling them "novelty items" when they were sexual parts attached to cherished partners - but the hard and fast of it is, they are no longer my partners, and their larger-than-average parts could not make up for flawed compatibility. I would not for one minute consider swapping my husband (with whom I enjoy near-perfect compatibility) for a larger partner - nor would I consider swapping his parts for larger ones if science ever progressed that far. Why? I'm perfectly happy with what he was born with.

Something that hasn't been mentioned - my vagina has endured the rather larger than average head of an infant passing through it. I haven't had any new/different partners since that happening, and I'm still happy with the partner I chose and the penis that came with it. Why is it such a leap of faith to consider that a vagina can bounce back from a 9" penis and still enjoy a 5" one, when a 20" long infant with a 14" head circumference has come and gone with little appreciable difference?

[Obelisk]

I frequent a bodybuilding forum, and there just happened to be a post about a guy who was belittled by his fiancee of all people. His erect size is apparently 4"

Apparently she was drunk and muttered something about him being the smallest guy she's ever had, so naturally he felt humiliated, but doesn't know what to do because she doesn't even remember saying it.

I have to note someone's reply was priceless. It was something along the lines of "If a girl ever tells me I'm small, I just tell her "well babe, it usually varies about an inch, depending on how hot the girl is" and suggested that line to him (I chuckled, and definitely remembering that line )

I had nothing to offer, but if she was my fiancee, she would have stopped being my fiancee that very minute. I dumped the first girl I was with for less.

And I had a long chat a couple of days with the second girl. As I suspected, she doesn't know what to do because she really likes me, but she wants kids. All I could say was that it's probably a good idea to break up then before our feelings get too strong. She was kind of mad that I don't want kids, but that's the way it is. It may be over.

I will probably just get a lot of sexual experience before I bother to try to have a gf again. I'm sure after I've been with 30 women I won't care about my size anymore, and it will probably be bigger by then as well.

[caster]

If or when a woman looks at your penis and says: "Who do you think you're gonna please with that?"
You reply: "Me!"

[DreamP346]

Apparently she was drunk and muttered something about him being the smallest guy she's ever had, so naturally he felt humiliated, but doesn't know what to do because she doesn't even remember saying it.

It seems like she just commented that he was the smaller guy she had. Why is that threatening? If a woman made the same comment about a man's head size or finger size, would that make a difference? Unless she said it degradingly, its just a fact. Its usually not a good idea to compare past partners to present ones ABOUT ANYTHING. But if is does happen, its not about the actual size, its about thinking that your partner did things sexually with somebody else. It would be bothersome if that somebody else was 3 inches or if you are insecure about yourself. It has very little to do with your partner finding your size inadequate.

[Obelisk]

It seems like she just commented that he was the smaller guy she had. Why is that threatening? If a woman made the same comment about a man's head size or finger size, would that make a difference? Unless she said it degradingly, its just a fact. Its usually not a good idea to compare past partners to present ones ABOUT ANYTHING. But if is does happen, its not about the actual size, its about thinking that your partner did things sexually with somebody else. It would be bothersome if that somebody else was 3 inches or if you are insecure about yourself. It has very little to do with your partner finding your size inadequate.

I think most women would be crushed if you told them they had the smallest breast size of anyone the guy has been with.

Penis size is to men what breast size is to women. I've seen some women who are pretty good looking except they are literally flat chested. If I were to date a woman like that, even if it's a fact, why the funk would I even mention it to her? It's not about facts, it's about perception. She probably feels inadequate as a woman because she is lacking something that is very feminine. If I truly cared about her, I would never say it to her.

It would also be like telling a woman she is overweight, even if it's only a little bit, like 20lbs. I'm sure most women would be pretty hurt by that.

It's the same with a guy. Like it or not, the penis is a symbol of our masculinity, and the bigger it is, the more "manly" we supposedly are.

A guy with a 3" penis would be like a woman with A cup breasts. The guy won't get to experience that larger breast feel with that woman, the same the woman won't get to experience being filled deeper with that guy.

I would think of a 4-5" penis as being B cups. They both barely do the job. 6" penis is probably like C cups, both are big enough for the man and woman to enjoy decently, and most men would probably agree these are adequate sized breasts, as I'm guessing most women would agree that size penis is fine for them. 7-8" I would see as D cups. Both are pretty big and really visual men/women might enjoy them more. 9"+ would be like DD/DDD's, definitely a novelty.


I would assume most women would like to be in the C/D range, and most guys want to be in the 7"-8" range. **This** is what I would call ideal.


So thinking of it from my male perspective, if I was with a girl that had D cup sized breasts, and went to a girl that had C sized cups, the difference would not be big enough to matter much to me. However, if I went to a girl with B cups, I'd sure heck notice the change, and even more so with A cups (and this is me genuinely saying I'm not a breast man).

This is why I believe the difference in penis size **can** have a similar effect on women. Again, most guys that have been with a woman who had DD's, to go to a woman with B's, would be like a woman who's been with a guy that was 8" and suddenly went to a guy who is 4"

Can true love prevail? I suppose (I don't believe in true love, but for the sake of argument let's say it exists as people think of it). Some men might miss the D sized breasts, some won't care as much. I imagine some women will miss the 8" rod, and maybe some won't.

Why is this concept so hard for people to understand?

[jns]

Apparently she was drunk and muttered something about him being the smallest guy she's ever had, so naturally he felt humiliated, but doesn't know what to do because she doesn't even remember saying it.

It seems like she just commented that he was the smaller guy she had. Why is that threatening? If a woman made the same comment about a man's head size or finger size, would that make a difference? Unless she said it degradingly, its just a fact. Its usually not a good idea to compare past partners to present ones ABOUT ANYTHING. But if is does happen, its not about the actual size, its about thinking that your partner did things sexually with somebody else. It would be bothersome if that somebody else was 3 inches or if you are insecure about yourself. It has very little to do with your partner finding your size inadequate.

There are many ways to belittle a person. The rule that should be followed most of the time is if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all. I think in this case most guys would take that as belittling unless they knew she was saying it because she found small cute or better in someway. Just think of someone saying "You're fatter than others I have known." How about "Your breasts are smaller than the girls I have been with in the past."? I don't see it as threatening, but I do see it as belittling.

[cathygirl]

Imagine all the comments that would make you feel embarrassed as a woman. "Wow, you have the longest labia I've ever seen... you could tie a knot with that". Or "wow, now I know what Freddie Mercury meant when he sang about Fat Bottomed Girls". Nobody wants their body parts subjected to ridicule, criticism, or even verbal notice if you know you're a little different. Now, on this never ending size thing, the biggest I ever experienced was absolutely positively NOT the best. Near the bottom of the pile, actually. The smallest was pretty darned good, but none can hold a candle to my "average" husband :-)

[DreamP346]

I would assume most women would like to be in the C/D range?

comments like these drive me crazy. Please do no assume what all women want. I find generalizations like these infuriating. Not all women want a C/D size. Not even most. Many large women want smaller. Many smaller women want larger and many many women love their breast size regardless of what they have. Similarly, men also like different sizes. Trying to generalize what people desire I personally find as being narrow minded. People want and desire different things. Saying that all or even most people want the same thing is lumping the entire human race to a few select desirable characteristics. People are diverse. You have a right to what you desire. Don't assume what other people want or find attractive.

[Stillness]

Obelisk, I like you because I think you represent the voice somewhere in all of us that says, "I hate my ___." We all experience it at some point in our lives or from time to time. You seem to reside in this world, though.

It's not that people don't understand you. I'd imagine most of us do. We also understand the compulsive gambler, the drunk, and the person that keeps getting plastic surgeries. None of what they go through is alien. It's why we all have to be careful because without balance any one of us can move towards extremes.

[Tatachsan]

Women who find males attitudes towards penis size perplexing should think about their own attitudes towards weight and dieting.

We men are just as perplexed by that: how a perfectly fine woman can spend her life worrying about 'shedding pounds'.

As for penis size, men need to grow a pair, I think. Like your man above saying women need to 'stop lying' - what do you want, dude? To keep asking the question, is like a woman who keeps asking you if she's fat. It's frankly
a little neurotic.

I always think that the question 'does it matter?' is too simplistic.

As a bloke, obviously I can't "speak" for women, but ..

It might matter, psychologically.

In a woman's fantasises, she might fantasise about a 10 incher.
Just like a man fantasises about the blonde bimbo.

But fantasies are fantasies.

And it might matter physically for some women. Sure it might. Maybe there are a handful of women that need a 7-10 incher. Who cares? There's plenty of women who don't.


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I am probably on the small side, flaccid (who cares?) 3 inches, erect under 6.

If I could go back and be born with an 8 incher bulge, great.
(just as if, I could go back, and be born 6 foot, multilingual, etc)

But I can't

So that's that. I don't really care.

If it's a 'problem' for a woman, frankly, I'm not interested.

It's a willy.

It sees a nudey lady, it wakes up and does it thing.

As far as I'm concerned, it's perfectly normal.

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It might sound insane, but that helped me. I'm with my first girlfriend, I'm 27 years old and I was so worried about what she'll think (Or any female, hence the 27 years old and first girlfriend) that I've been hoping to avoid sex. I've always wanted the partner/girlfriend/wife but always let my size stop me. I'd always figure if I'm not big enough to please a woman, why put a woman through that. Though post such as (This gets a little vulgar.) "He gets really embarassed and insecure and always finishes me off another way, but if I wanted oral I would just get a girlfriend. I want to get pounded for hours"

Always tend to knock you down a peg. I think Hesse said it best with "As for penis size, men need to grow a pair, I think." at least for me. Thanks