[Motorguy]

Interesting. I didn't think to define. I had in mind the dictionary definition. What does "dirty" mean to you?

Dirty to me would be someone who is into maybe toilet games or licking feet and arm pits that kind of stuff yuck.

[effy2014]

Since BB is clearly my brother from another mother, I will occupy the middle ground with him. I like kinky, taboo and passionate sex in the context of a clean, pure and holy monogamous relationship.

[Stillness]

I don't see kinky and passionate at odds with holy and pure at all.

Taboo is another issue. If you believe something is rightfully taboo and you regularly enjoy doing it with because it is taboo, then that says something about you. What? I don't exactly know. I'm very interested in that phenomenon though.

[Motorguy]

I don't see kinky and passionate at odds with holy and pure at all.

Taboo is another issue. If you believe something is rightfully taboo and you regularly enjoy doing it with because it is taboo, then that says something about you. What? I don't exactly know. I'm very interested in that phenomenon though.

Well Taboo for me is someone into adult incest or stuff really on the other deep end of the scope just way to deep for me.

[effy2014]

I don't see kinky and passionate at odds with holy and pure at all.

Taboo is another issue. If you believe something is rightfully taboo and you regularly enjoy doing it with because it is taboo, then that says something about you. What? I don't exactly know. I'm very interested in that phenomenon though.

I suppose it depends what's on a taboo list. Some would view analingus as taboo but I don't enjoy it because its taboo (maybe a little). "Watersports" as well (though I have not practiced but might not be adverse). I am not on MG's deep end (I mean I like my sister and all but .....) but if we go with a societal taboo, I am sure that I have practiced something.

[Motorguy]

I suppose it depends what's on a taboo list. Some would view analingus as taboo but I don't enjoy it because its taboo (maybe a little). "Watersports" as well (though I have not practiced but might not be adverse). I am not on MG's deep end (I mean I like my sister and all but .....) but if we go with a societal taboo, I am sure that I have practiced something.

Well Effy, that is would be the biggest Taboo is that and many have practice this forum of taboo. I love my sisters as well but not like that either.

[Stillness]

societal taboo

That's vague in a diverse society like ours. That's why I was trying to steer away from what society or other people think and focus on the individual. If your subculture/religion/family has taboos that you buy into, then we're talking.

I had a girlfriend let me do it to her anally. That's taboo in some circles. I was raised to view it as unclean. I was really curious about it and wanted to try it. My best friend had hyped it up as being a great experience. What I really got a kick out of was the fact that she let me do it and hadn't allowed anyone else to. The fact that it was taboo and I had never done it might have made it exciting, but once I did it and the curiosity was gone, it was no longer as exciting. And the unclean aspect of it didn't hold any fascination for me.

So I can understand the fascination and curiosity of doing something taboo, but not just because it's taboo. And certainly not because it's dirty. I don't get that. I'd like to know where that comes from. Does it stem from beliefs that sp mentioned that sex for pleasure is dirty, so people associate that pleasure with dirtiness? I just hear people called "dirty" or "naughty" for being sexual and sexual acts called "dirty" and "nasty" so much, that I wonder. Is it just a euphemism for "sexual?" It seems like more. And if so, how did that come to be.

[Motorguy]

That's vague in a diverse society like ours. That's why I was trying to steer away from what society or other people think and focus on the individual. If your subculture/religion/family has taboos that you buy into, then we're talking.

I had a girlfriend let me do it to her anally. That's taboo in some circles. I was raised to view it as unclean. I was really curious about it and wanted to try it. My best friend had hyped it up as being a great experience. What I really got a kick out of was the fact that she let me do it and hadn't allowed anyone else to. The fact that it was taboo and I had never done it might have made it exciting, but once I did it and the curiosity was gone, it was no longer as exciting. And the unclean aspect of it didn't hold any fascination for me.

So I can understand the fascination and curiosity of doing something taboo, but not just because it's taboo. And certainly not because it's dirty. I don't get that. I'd like to know where that comes from. Does it stem from beliefs that sp mentioned that sex for pleasure is dirty, so people associate that pleasure with dirtiness? I just hear people called "dirty" or "naughty" for being sexual and sexual acts called "dirty" and "nasty" so much, that I wonder. Is it just a euphemism for "sexual?" It seems like more. And if so, how did that come to be.

Well Stillness some people would used terms of certain words as being dirty or naughty plus kinky all being the same if you doing more then the missionary position then they will use these terms. Where the taboo is a little more risk cay then the first three words being used. But some will use word do define a sexually act to some would be nasty or kinky where naughty more of other sexually act like oral or so.

[muffin70]

My wife does like it if I talk dirty to her while I am massaging her clit.. I will tell her how hard I am going to screw her, and how much she wants it... and I tell her how hard I'm going to cum and I'm going to plaster her breasts with my cum...etc... and that along with sucking her nipples will send her into orgasmic overdrive!
and usually while we are making love she will push her breasts together and tell me how hard her nipples are and she says "I kow you want to cum all over them baby" and that makes me cum!

[Motorguy]

My wife does like it if I talk dirty to her while I am massaging her clit.. I will tell her how hard I am going to screw her, and how much she wants it... and I tell her how hard I'm going to cum and I'm going to plaster her breasts with my cum...etc... and that along with sucking her nipples will send her into orgasmic overdrive!
and usually while we are making love she will push her breasts together and tell me how hard her nipples are and she says "I kow you want to cum all over them baby" and that makes me cum!

Well that's right muffin that is talking dirty and being naughty as everyone would say with sex with wife or girl friend. Nothing wrong with that it's what we do behind close doors it fun and pleasurable.