[HisGirl]

I’ve tried to stay out of this of late because it’s sadly a point of contention for some. But I’d like to thank you for your mature responses. I’m impressed and enlightened that many of you gentlemen have proven yourselves above the stereotype.

[Doll-HouseFiction]

I think most women feel that penis size doesn't matter because they feel that they care about the person and it's such an unimportant factor in a relationship when you perceive it as a whole. Your penis size doesn't make you a man, it's your values.

On a purely biological and subconscious factor? Sure…just like on a purely subconscious factor…every man wishes their wife looks like Megan Fox. But in the end that's neither important nor long lasting.

I would love for my breasts to be bigger…every man I have ever been with tells me they love my breasts. But c'mon if they were full and luscious what man would complain?

But hey it's life and nobody's perfect. We ALL have insecurities every relationship goes through the same ********. The difference between the couples who make it and those who don't is the ability to overcome your own restrictive insecurities and allow the other person to accept you for the amazing person you are.

[Obelisk]

I’ve tried to stay out of this of late because it’s sadly a point of contention for some. But I’d like to thank you for your mature responses. I’m impressed and enlightened that many of you gentlemen have proven yourselves above the stereotype.

Hopefully I'm one of them

Anyway, again I can't say I speak for other men, but in the case of myself, I just don't believe in love the same way others do. We are basically products of evolution, and in a sense, everything we do is pre-programmed into our DNA.

In my case for example, I love my parents dearly, especially my dad. I consider him to be my best friend. However, I totally understand that this feeling comes from the:

1. Total coincidence that this man is my father and not someone else.
2. His general caring attitude he has always had for me since I was a kid.
3. My own predisposition to accepting him flaws and all.
4. The general need for connection with someone.

If it were another universe, a completely different man might be my dad, and the likelihood is that I would probably love him just as much provided that different man had been a good father as well.

I think the same thing happens with "love". Basically, "love" comes out of a psychological need to be accepted and to be cared for that is imprinted in our DNA. That need for acceptance and for care is so strong that anyone or anything that is able to provide it, will automatically be "loved" by us.

This is, I believe one of the reasons that pets are so popular. They have basically been bred (genetic selection) to be the perfect companions. Most friendly dogs will love their master unconditionally as long as they are getting what they are programmed to need from you (food, shelter, affection).

Relationships I believe are similar. We will "fall in love" with the person that can fill that hole imprinted on us by the evolutive process, no matter what they look like.

However, that takes time to build, and it's usually another evolutionary traits that gets us in the door; that of sexual attraction. This is where what you can bring to the table sexually matter. For a man, it might be being tall, having a good looking fit physique, a chiseled face, and the size of his tool.

We're all just some type of evolutionary joke, and I feel like I've been played.

[Stillness]

every man wishes their wife looks like Megan Fox

I don't. Really deep down inside I don't. People have different preferences and even different physical makeups. Wouldn't it be ironic if a guy lengthened his penis only to fall in love with a woman with a shallow vagina?

And here's another question: All things being equal, would most women prefer a man confident about his average sized penis or a man that was so obsessed with his perfectly normal penis that he spent a lot of time, energy and even some money over months or years to stretch it?

[Obelisk]

I don't. Really deep down inside I don't.

I like Megan Fox's body, but her face looks like overdone plastic surgery, and looks fake. She looked so much better in her before pics.

People have different preferences and even different physical makeups. Wouldn't it be ironic if a guy lengthened his penis only to fall in love with a woman with a shallow vagina?

Sounds like a candidate story for the Twilight Zone. I doubt at 7" this would be a huge problem unless the woman was very small.

And here's another question: All things being equal, would most women prefer a man confident about his average sized penis or a man that was so obsessed with his perfectly normal penis that he spent a lot of time, energy and even some money over months or years to stretch it?

I fake confidence like it's out of style man. The 2 women I've been with had absolutely no way to know that I am apprehensive about my size. With the first girl it was simply because I could concentrate on my overall physique (muscled jock looking guy) but I would say she was still a point above me in looks, which is probably why she was so stuck up.

Second girl is probably 2 points below me, and she is tight, so at least my girth is being used well there. Both women needed me to finger/lick their clits to get ready to take me in.

I know I'm probably obsessing about it more than I should, but it's just so unfair how evolution could have frigged everything so badly that there is such a disparity in size matching so we can't freakin' win. We might fall in love with someone too large for us, or too small.

Like Homer Simpson, I feel like choking the crap out of that DNA molecule.

lol

[rcoreyus]

Points above, points below? Is appearance something that can be graded? I'm not saying that there aren't unusually beautiful or ugly people, but in general I couldn't possibly compare two women. There are so many different types of beauty.

[Stillness]

I'm not saying that there aren't unusually beautiful or ugly people, but in general I couldn't possibly compare two women.

If you could, you would probably be trying to extend your penis. It goes towards mind state. So many of our pains are self-inflicted.

[HisGirl]

(just an aside) Megan Fox (from her Transformers days) is my girl crush. I think she’s the most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen.

[Stillness]

I find the vast majority of women on the planet attractive to some extent. So even a woman that's not especially attractive is probably still attractive to me. But I wouldn't give Megan Fox a second look. It's funny that she looks a lot like a young lady in my office that the men go crazy over. I just don't see it at all. Not even a little.

Normally I'm the one thinking someone is pretty that others don't or I can at least see what they're talking about. To each their own, I guess.

[Ratty]

Why are women so insecure about being in the presence of men that they demand (and get) women-only gyms and gym sessions, charity running events, children's soft-play areas such as Kids Go Wild in Birmingham which refuses entry to dads and any male over the age of 9 and women only swimming sessions at council-owned swimming pools??

You are in no position to criticise men for being insecure unless you are prepared to admit that women are equally, if not more, insecure.