[somerandomguy]

Cuckolding with well endowed men is furnishing a fantasy which has little relevance to any physical aspects of the male anatomy.

But even so, the choice falls on well-endowed men. As I understand it, in some variation of this fantasy, the cuckolded husband is turned on by the fact that someone "manlier" than him is pleasuring his wife. In this case, 'manlier' translates into larger (longer) penis. The "Beta"-male being humiliated by the "Alpha"-male.

There is little of substance in the notion that a man's length procures a woman's sexual satisfaction and guarantees it. Strictly speaking the girth matters the most not the length. However, it's how one uses it and the whole package that comes with your attitude and approach towards making your partner feel wanted and valued, which makes the difference.

So what constitutes the "ideal" girth? Whenever I hear/read about how some women find large penises uncomfortable (too painful etc. due to them having a small vagina or what not), it is always the length that is the deal-breaker.

Try fulfilling her fantasies, just tell her you are game for any thing she wants to do with you or for you to do with her. You will certainly notice a difference.

Where does one draw the line? What if I am not OK with certain things (i.e. threesomes)? Does that make me a selfish lover? This comes back to the matter of size: It seems as though the bigger the penis, the lesser you have to do to compensate. If the guy is packing an 8-inch penis, he might get away with "only" using his fingers and his mouth once in a while. However, if the guy is packing a below-average penis not only does he have to be good with his hands and mouth, but he may be "expected" to be OK with toys and/or an open relationship as well. These scenarios are obviously a bit exaggerated, but you catch my drift.

[jslater]

It seems as though the bigger the penis, the lesser you have to do to compensate. If the guy is packing an 8-inch penis, he might get away with "only" using his fingers and his mouth once in a while. However, if the guy is packing a below-average penis not only does he have to be good with his hands and mouth, but he may be "expected" to be OK with toys and/or an open relationship as well.

A bad lover is a bad lover regardless of his penis size. I guess i just don't see in the terms of having to do extra because i have a smaller penis versus the guy you feel has to do less because he has a bigger penis. I work with couples every day and never has the root of their problems been his lack of penis size. In my circle, there are several guys hung like horses and according to their girlfriends/wives, they are crappy lovers. They complain all the time to my wife how they just climb on top of them and just pump away. How they constantly complain how they never get enough sex or blow jobs yet won't even go down on their wives or make any effort. My wife loves toys, she loves to role play... she fantasizes about all kinds of things... the bottom line is... she chose me to do them with. She expects me to treat her the best i can and i expect the same from her. Sex IS important and i do everything i can to satisfy her because i love her and she tries her hardest to satisfy my desires for the same reason. I'm not compensating in any way. My goal is to pleasure her the best I can, anyway I can as long as I'm comfortable doing it. As hot as my wife is, I know she could probably have any man she wanted but she chose me with my "smaller penis." She loves that smaller penis of mine... I know how to stimulate her with it and she doesn't have to gag during oral sex. It's also alot more confortable for her during anal play. But aside from the act of sex itself, i rock her world by being a great husband and father and for that, she can't keep her hands of me. It really is her biggest turn on. A word of advice to that guy out there who is feeling sorry for himself because he is so focused on the size of his penis and how unfair it is, how bigger guys have it so easy... little does he know that his lack of confidence is a far greater detriment than his self perceived physical inadequacy. Most women really don't care about size and if a woman truly does and just wants a guy with a big penis... why would you want to be with her anyways... that's just my opinion.

[Obelisk]

So what constitutes the "ideal" girth? Whenever I hear/read about how some women find large penises uncomfortable (too painful etc. due to them having a small vagina or what not), it is always the length that is the deal-breaker.

Everything I've read from men and women seem to indicate that 5.5" is ideal girth. 6" will feel really good to some women, and will be uncomfortable to others.

Where does one draw the line? What if I am not OK with certain things (i.e. threesomes)? Does that make me a selfish lover?

It's funny because I don't see the point of threesomes either. I want to enjoy my one woman and no one else.

If the guy is packing an 8-inch penis, he might get away with "only" using his fingers and his mouth once in a while.

No I don't think so man. A 14" penis would not hit the clit just on penetration alone. Most women need that stimulation to orgasm.

However, if the guy is packing a below-average penis not only does he have to be good with his hands and mouth, but he may be "expected" to be OK with toys and/or an open relationship as well. These scenarios are obviously a bit exaggerated, but you catch my drift.

I probably have to agree with this. What's below average though? I'd say anything less than 5" would require the guy to compensate for lack of size. 7" seems to be ideal, and larger than that it's a toss wether the woman will enjoy it or if it will actually hurt her. Bigger than 7" seems to be a 50/50 wether it's good or bad.
Smaller than 5" is a 50/50 if it's too small for that particular woman. That's what I've been able to gather so far.

[Stillness]

That's what I've been able to gather so far.

I like you Obelisk. And even though I dislike the increase in penis content you've introduced to these boards, I find your posts intelligent and see in them something that most of us deal with, although to a much lesser extent. I even see some indication that you may be coming around, which makes me happy and hopeful.

With that being said, you still gather what you want to gather and discard what doesn't suit you. You cherrypick. You miss the forest for the trees.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

With that being said, you still gather what you want to gather and discard what doesn't suit you. You cherrypick. You miss the forest for the trees.

Give him time, I'm nick-naming his "grasshopper"...

Learning is good, how long it takes doesn't matter.

[Obelisk]

I like you Obelisk.

Thanks man.

And even though I dislike the increase in penis content you've introduced to these boards, I find your posts intelligent and see in them something that most of us deal with, although to a much lesser extent.

I appreciate that. It's interesting that the "increase penis stuff" is something that you are familiar with. I guess I would have to add that, yes, I understand it's a very dangerous thing to do and extreme care has to be taken. I would not recommend it to anyone that: A. Is fine, or only mildly worried about their size and B. already has a loved one that they have regular physical relations with. You definitely want your unit working if you are in a loving relationship. I'm not, so I'm somewhat mentally prepared for any potential problems. Given that, I've surprisingly been making small gains.

I even see some indication that you may be coming around, which makes me happy and hopeful.

Well I don't know if I can get to what you guys want me to be. Stillness, like you are now, I was very religious, and I really wanted my first sexual experience to be with the woman of my life that was also having her first experience with me.

I'm kind of done with that, but I'm sore that this has been taken away from me. Now the likelihood is that even the most conservative woman has probably had at least 4 partners prior to me. It's a 50/50 toss up as well if they were significantly bigger. I understand women were probably in those relationships with the hope that the particular man they were with was the one, so I don't judge, or blame. Still in general, something I wanted in my life is not possible anymore.

With that being said, you still gather what you want to gather and discard what doesn't suit you. You cherrypick. You miss the forest for the trees.

I'm simply going by the motto "if you can't beat them, join them". That's all.

[Stillness]

By "increase in penis content" I meant, "more penis discussion," not "discussing penis lengthening."

I share your sentiment on two virgins marrying being the ideal. It's not the only way that people can have a fulfilling relationship, though. You can learn from experience and build character through mistakes. You can have that been-there-done-that mentality that can allow you to focus on what's important instead of what might have been. And with character you can beat them so you don't have to worry about joining them.

I know, because I've beaten taller, more athletic dudes with presumably bigger packages. See the forest, not the trees.

[Obelisk]

By "increase in penis content" I meant, "more penis discussion," not "discussing penis lengthening."

Ah ok lol. Well I think I've woken up the fears of all smaller men that lurk on here I guess.

I share your sentiment on two virgins marrying being the ideal. It's not the only way that people can have a fulfilling relationship, though.

I've seen many posts from men and women on this board that talk about how their current partner was their first, and so far only partner. I'm honestly jealous of what they have. They have an unspoiled bond where they only know each other physically. That's a world where you don't have to feel like your in competition with anyone else. Your mate is your mate, and you learn each other as best as you can without any previous baggage.

You can learn from experience and build character through mistakes. You can have that been-there-done-that mentality that can allow you to focus on what's important instead of what might have been. And with character you can beat them so you don't have to worry about joining them.

I've lost many a battle, but I haven't lost the war yet. I have character. Believe me, I am a very noble guy. I think I look ok physically so that's kind of taken care of. Those are easy things for me.

I know, because I've beaten taller, more athletic dudes with presumably bigger packages. See the forest, not the trees.

This is where I can't agree. I think women settle for men of character because the buff, ripped, well endowed men were in it just for themselves. It's clear who they go after in their 20's. I've never had women want to date me because I was such a good guy and cared about people. I have had women want to date me because they look at my body and it's like "wow I want that guy". Those are the women I usually ran from, and most of the time I dress to hide my physique anyway. We're all ruled by these base primal desires, and I see nothing wrong with women being aroused by a "hot" guy as much as a guy gets aroused by a "hot" woman.

I think that's the disconnect here. You guys want me to believe that's it's all character, it's all your personality. If I had ever experienced that, I might agree. I never have. Maybe I'm missing out on something. How do I find it?

[CHANDLERS WISH]

Well I don't know if I can get to what you guys want me to be

Hun personally I like you also the way you are, you are entitled to be who you are, no one has a right to change you.

Guide you, that's different and we honestly hope that we can and are.

I'm sorry, I also wanted to marry once ... That was the goal, I was a model so you can appreciate the guys I met. So I waited like you... (as in getting married )But, the person I married changed the day we married and so life goes on, you know? You take it all in its stride and say pfttttttttttttt...

What is important is keep your morals but, but, but, don't put yourself down enough people have done that in your life, it's time to kick them to the curb mentally and see YOU.

That is all

[CoolBreeze]

To your points respectively,

1. No not necessarily, it could also include different racial choices to spice up ones intimate life. Humiliation could be one of the kinky aspects but the "sperm war" phenomenon has been described more aptly as being the reason for arousing the "Beta-Male".

2. Again specifics don't matter as long as the male partner knows how and when to apply himself, any physical "limitations" become irrelevant. There are well endowed lovers who mess it up owing to their over confidence and non-considerate attitude while there are less endowed lovers who rock a woman's world with their skill and good EQ levels.

3. It is always a two way street, we females are more intuitive towards their partner's likes and dislikes and it's more probable that she would never ask of you to do anything which you feel repulsive about.

Again there are no absolutes or minimums or maximums when two humans exercise intimacy. As long as both of you make it a point to pleasure the other physically and mentally to their best efforts, while making incremental steps to improve and avoid stagnation, then your physical relationship curve would move only up and beyond. The more secure a relationship is questions like open/close, toys no-toys, use of this or that become incrementally redundant.

But even so, the choice falls on well-endowed men. As I understand it, in some variation of this fantasy, the cuckolded husband is turned on by the fact that someone "manlier" than him is pleasuring his wife. In this case, 'manlier' translates into larger (longer) penis. The "Beta"-male being humiliated by the "Alpha"-male.



So what constitutes the "ideal" girth? Whenever I hear/read about how some women find large penises uncomfortable (too painful etc. due to them having a small vagina or what not), it is always the length that is the deal-breaker.



Where does one draw the line? What if I am not OK with certain things (i.e. threesomes)? Does that make me a selfish lover? This comes back to the matter of size: It seems as though the bigger the penis, the lesser you have to do to compensate. If the guy is packing an 8-inch penis, he might get away with "only" using his fingers and his mouth once in a while. However, if the guy is packing a below-average penis not only does he have to be good with his hands and mouth, but he may be "expected" to be OK with toys and/or an open relationship as well. These scenarios are obviously a bit exaggerated, but you catch my drift.