[somerandomguy]

First of all, I would like to apologize for not participating in the discussion over the weekend. Second of all, I would like to thank everybody for their input; I did not expect this thread to reach as many responses as it has.

I tend to agree with Obelisk on the point he makes that women who love you for you are only prone to do so after they have had their share of “sexual adventures” and are finally ready to settle down. It seems as though they are more ready, at that point, to accept a smaller than average penis given that the man also has other things to offer her in the form of positive personality traits (in addition to being able to satisfy her sexually). Which kind of points to the origin of the “Nice Guys Finish Last”-trope.

I do not know how it is for the majority of women, but I would be bummed out if I could not obtain sexual pleasure from intercourse with my partner because she was too loose. Before you call me superficial, please read my train of thought below (on the below you may correct me if I am wrong):

Maybe it is because women reach more intense orgasms when their clitoris is stimulated compared with only intercourse. Maybe it is because 80% of women have trouble reaching vaginal orgasms by means of only intercourse on a regular basis. But, I think that these reasons may be part of the reason why women put less weight on the importance of intercourse and, by extension, the size of a man’s penis.

I do not think there is any man out there whose woman is only able to bring him to orgasm by means of oral and handjobs/fleshlights. I think intercourse is a very big part of what gets a man to climax. I at least have never neither heard nor read of men “putting up with” or “settling for” women who are unable to bring them to orgasm through intercourse on the basis that these women had so many other positive aspects to them. Aspects that, by a wide margin, outweighed the lack of intercourse-induced orgasms they failed to provide. Admittedly, it could be the case that these men see themselves as too small and thus unable to please their woman through intercourse, while in reality it is their woman who is too large “down there”.

[BabyGirl]

Finally !! I have been waiting for this Statement.
From Obelisk..

I would rather prefer that a woman doesn't have a memory of all the 7's and 9's she's had before she was with me to compare to. That's a pipe dream now.

I have already asked this question and at least Obelisk has ignored it ,Some Random guy may have just missed it .

If you do not want a Woman to compare your size with other men. Why won't you seek a Virgin ?
You say you are nice looking, get 2nd looks because you work out. What would be hard about looking for a Woman that is Sweet and Innocent. One you could Court, Treat like a Lady, maybe fall in love with and Marry.
She will not have anyone to compare you with. And if you continue to treat her well and love and Cherish her and are Faithful. She will never know a Penis other than yours ..

Pipe Dream Fulfilled ..
And there are Virgins out there,more than you think. You just may be looking for Women in the wrong places . Or for the wrong type of Women.

[rcoreyus]

Maybe off topic, but there ARE men who cannot orgasm from intercourse - not even that rare. Look up "delayed ejaculation", its almost as common as premature.

The reason I bring it up is that I think there are a lot of misconceptions out there about what sex is like for most people.

I've beer reading this board for years now, and of course a lot of women have had complaints about their sex lives. Almost none (maybe none at all) involved their lover not being well enough endowed.

I do not think there is any man out there whose woman is only able to bring him to orgasm by means of oral and handjobs/fleshlights. I think intercourse is a very big part of what gets a man to climax..

[Obelisk]

I tend to agree with Obelisk on the point he makes that women who love you for you are only prone to do so after they have had their share of “sexual adventures” and are finally ready to settle down. It seems as though they are more ready, at that point, to accept a smaller than average penis given that the man also has other things to offer her in the form of positive personality traits (in addition to being able to satisfy her sexually). Which kind of points to the origin of the “Nice Guys Finish Last”-trope.

I guess I just wish that I could be with a woman that doesn't have a memory of the 9" cocks she's had, and how good they felt, and how I can't provide that feeling and have to compensate with other frivolous stuff like "personality". "Personality" is the death knell to a guy. If he is a "nice guy" it just means he was the loser who couldn't find women to sleep with him until they were done with their fill of the guys they found physically attractive. Maybe I just feel this way because I never played that game, and for trying to do the right thing I get punished.

[rcoreyus]

Hmm, by your definition the "loser" is the one who ends up spending the rest of his life with the girl and the winner is the guy who sleeps with lots of girls so he needs to use condoms all the time, and who eventually gets older and less attractive and winds up hiring prostitutes.

And this still has nothing to do with penis size - buy the time a girl learns how big you are, you are already being intimate. If the goal is to sleep with lots of girls, then you have already won before she knows how big you are. Also, I suspect VERY FEW women have every actually seen a 9" penis. do a google search of "histogram of penis sizes".

[kira]

I guess I just wish that I could be with a woman that doesn't have a memory of the 9" cocks she's had, and how good they felt

I've had an 8" penis and I prefer the average 6-6.5". It's much more comfortable. You'll find threads on here of women or men complaining they have trouble having sex because their penis is big. It takes a lot of effort to get aroused enough it will go in smoothly and often we had to get out the lubricant. Then the guy has to be careful not to slam in to the cervix too hard. I spent a lot of time explaining angles of penetration and shifting my hips during sex to avoid bruising my cervix.

[Obelisk]

Hmm, by your definition the "loser" is the one who ends up spending the rest of his life with the girl and the winner is the guy who sleeps with lots of girls so he needs to use condoms all the time, and who eventually gets older and less attractive and winds up hiring prostitutes.

And this still has nothing to do with penis size - buy the time a girl learns how big you are, you are already being intimate. If the goal is to sleep with lots of girls, then you have already won before she knows how big you are. Also, I suspect VERY FEW women have every actually seen a 9" penis. do a google search of "histogram of penis sizes".

I don't think a guy who sleeps with a lot of women is a winner. I have no desire to do so. I still have hopes that I can find that girl that feels the same. It seems that the 8-9" penis size is much more common as it seems that every girl has tried one.

At the same time, I never expected to get to my 30's and find that most women have had an incredible variety of penises, and some huge ones. It kind of disarms my capacity to be a man physically. So I'm left to try to "win" over a girl on my personality. I guess others can accept that. I can't. I feel like I'm going in crippled into a battle.

I guess I just can't really understand what a relationship is that doesn't include sex. It's like women are saying "we don't care about your size, or your looks, we just want you to be nice to us". So what's the point of even having a man then? Why not just stick with good woman friends instead?

Now size wise, it wouldn't be such a problem for me if I believed huge men were uncommon. However, no matter where I go or what I read, the typical phrase is "yes I've had huge but I didn't like it, I like my current bf/husband's average/small size". While I can believe that really large "could" be uncomfortable for some women, the evidence suggests that deep down inside they enjoyed it (unless it really was so big for them it couldn't even fit).

Now I don't care to be the biggest guy a woman has had, but I certainly don't want to be the smallest. I'm already getting close to 6", which is making me happy, once I'm there I can say I'm not smaller than average anymore.

As for ending up with the girl, I don't know. I wouldn't be happy if I was the last choice in all the ones she's had in her past. I wish science would have just found a way to turn off libido for those of us who have no use for it. If I didn't need to get layed, I wouldn't care what size I am.

I've had an 8" penis......

What woman nowadays hasn't

[kira]

You missed the point. You are all worried that women were happy to have a large penis and are settling for a smaller one when in reality most women don't want a large penis. It's uncomfortable. My finger can reach the back of my vagina and it's only what... 4-5" with the others folded next to it. Not to mention the width problems.

[BambooEarrings]

Yeah, I hate the felling of an extra long penis jabbing at my cervix. It hurts. This happens a lot with my husband and he is 7". I kinda wish he was 6", which would be a lot better.

[Obelisk]

Alright, you women want to help me? There's a way you can.

Without telling me how many men you have been with, what would you estimate is the percentage of guys you've been with that were above average? (6"-7") 10%? 20%?
If you want to add how many guys you've been with I'd appreciate it also, but I leave that up to you. If you can also include your age I'd appreciate that as well, but again only if you feel comfortable.

What percentage was really big? (8"+) 5%? 2%?

What percentage was average? (5"-6") 40%? 50%?

What percentage was smaller than average (3-4")?

Did you run into really tiny?

And finally, what size was the most enjoyable to you?

I want honest answers please. I don't need to hear anymore "size doesn't matter it's what the guy did with it". Also please ignore "personality" also. Think strictly what size was enjoyable to you, what size was too big, and what size was too small.

Honest answers to these questions really would help me.