[somerandomguy]

I am sorry or the upcoming rant. As with everything, there are good days and there are bad days. Yesterday was a bad day or me. I saw a clip on YouTube called “Men's Size And What We Women Would Like Ya To Do! Part 1”. One of the things that “Women Would Like Us To Do” (according to Twisted Broad), is to agree to do whatever the girl wants in order to please her. To put her first. At first, I was agreeing with this statement (men tend to feel powerful when they are able to please their woman). Then she came to the point where she brought up bringing toys into the bedroom. Specifically (much) larger than average-penis-size dildos.

Now, just before this video I happened upon a thread with the title “Replaced by a dildo” (Google it). In this thread, the OP had brought home a black-porn-star-penis-replica dildo. His wife did not ask for one, he just thought it would be fun. So far so good, right? Nothing wrong with being the generous husband and wanting to experiment a little. It took them 15 minutes to get her hot enough for the dildo to slide in, at which point she could take it almost to the “balls”. This thing was apparently 10 inches long with the associated girth. After she was able to take it all in, her husband started moving the dildo in and out of his wife’s vagina resulting in her having the most intense orgasm ever in 2 minutes flat. Up to that point, the wife in this couple had always said that she was very satisfied by her husband’s 4.5-inch penis and that penis size did not matter (things you would expect any decent wife to say). After the first time with the 10-inch dildo however, she almost always wanted to use it during sex, in order to orgasm. Furthermore, every time her husband entered her after her having used the dildo, he claimed that he did not feel anything from being inside her (a result of her being “too” stretched out).

To top it all off, the thread was full of comments from other husbands that had had the same experience. For one of these other husbands, things had escalated from the dildo to his wife taking a real lover. According to him, his wife had not had sex with him for the past 7 years because she “did not see the point anymore” (pun not intended).

Here is where I started thinking. How far should a guy go to satisfy his woman? Should he bend over backwards? Should he even forsake his own pleasure? Should he just be happy that his wife is happy and S.T.F.U.? Let me try to clarify.

Let us say that a guy have to use a dildo to satisfy his partner because his penis is not big enough (but they do love each other). If using that dildo then makes his partner too loose for him to enjoy intercourse, were does that leave her? Does not the woman also have to do something to please her man? Is it all about her pleasure? Should the guy just be glad he is getting laid at all?

How would women feel if a guy whipped out a fleshlight after having taken care of her orgasm? Or, if the guy asked a girl to wear some kind of dummy breasts over her own breasts, because he is into big breasts?

[somerandomguy]

So I should put myself thru all the stresses that come with having a child simply because of some notion that I can be a better parent? How about eliminating the problem at the root? I suppose if I had some need to create offspring I could understand your view, but there is no positive in it for me, only negative.

I've seen the struggle of most parents to try to keep food on the table. To have to worry about losing one's job. To worry that the kids are hanging with the wrong crowd. A friend of my dad's had 3 kids that all went to jail for various reasons. They are still there.
The dad died of a hearth attack in his sleep at 58.

Did any of those people ever regret having children or love their children any less because they had more things to worry about compared with when they were childless?

I think we need to get used to this. Every woman we meet now is likely to have had guys with bigger packages. I'm having good results with the penile enhancement though, I'm getting close to 6". Maybe in a year's time I can be 7". I hope that won't be so small anymore.

When I wrote that, in my mind I conected the fact about the wife being out with friends with the fact that her previous BF had been a good lover in combination with having a larger penis. "Friends" = previous BF. Sorry if I offend, I am paranoid like that.

[CHANDLERS WISH]

If women do not place as much weight on penis size as men seem to do/think, then what about all those cuckold wives who just cannot get enough of the BBC? I do not think they are just putting up a “show” of moaning to satisfy their cuck husbands’ inferiority complex.

I guess I am wondering how these women can “stand” having sex with their husbands when their sexual needs are not met by them

Excellent thought pattern SRG (CW) and opinion... As well as the breasts
thoughts. It's true, I think, that some guys also fantasize about the size of a woman's breasts but then what is he looking for? If the fantasy has to be turned into reality....... Isn't this a check box list? The beginning of one.


Obelisk.

It's pretty evident a lot of members have taken the time to reply to you directly regardless of the original posters question. There is a genuine want to help you from both from females and males on this Forum as well as interesting discussions that twist and turn. Stay with us in a "good" way....

You may not agree with a thought from a person telling you how it is for them, in real life, because you don't believe it exists however, putting down that person or people won't be tolerated.

To somerandomguy, spell that backwards. People have warmed to your thread. Me included. You raise a very good point about your comments about our breasts and your desire. There are also a trillion threads about women feeling insecure about their breasts, and/ or guys liking "Dolly" and I'd like to keep the thread on track to you, your thoughts and questions, as you started this thread for a purpose and reason.



Doesn't that just mean that it goes both ways? Guys have "wants'... Gals too and fantasies.

Maybe later, in the 20's getting older, 25 maybe,. Marriage comes to mind, have to find that woman.

Wish list stuffed up for her, she's 25, he's a bit more mature, he's also 25, and so.... Maturity comes into it not fantasies which can be wants and desires, rather, more important things, more mature things, than just.sex. Even sex, later becomes a more want and desire for intimacy/sensuality/sexuality/ aventure/ lust again. We are women, we change and so do men. When do they grow up? 40 is the 30's

It's a difficult one but I wonder does age (maturity) not necessarily "age" come into it? All "older" people past 45 are suggesting so. Wants are different, size pfttttt, needs are different, heart is fonder and stiller ... Mind you size is not important to so many that replied. Pulling a thread is of "one" person starting it, the OP. Who is of the - I want. Spoilt? Think about it. Type?

At 40 apparently We are more sexual, adventurous. Imagine then in our teens to earl 20's we get worse at 40? No one has mentioned that. So are most married by 40? Googled? Are they dying for a sexual peak that isn't bought to them? Should they blame the man? I mean at some point was she non sexual, friendship zone? It happens. So one can say is he the one to make the effort?

It's all over the place in reality, based on sexual peak.

Or is it based on fantasizes yet one more "mature" the fantasizes are more about things you do together including sex, we all feel younger again for some reason between 40 -- 60 and then how we feel, finally never worrying, being yourself, not afraid, in-secure... zilch.. Just being....

[HisGirl]

Sorry I was just annoyed at how everyone pops in with an anecdote that's supposed to prove to me the theories I believe in are all wrong. Clearly if you were annoyed by my comment then there is some truth to what I have been saying all along.

No, it’s not your stand on this issue that bothers me, you opinion is just as valuable as anyone else’s. What’s hurtful is your habit of taking what we say and making snide comments about it. You don’t mock the men, just the women.

There are wonderful men on this forum who are intelligent, insightful, thoughtful and a whole lot of fun. You’re smart and articulate and I hope and trust that you can take a cue from them and learn to be the kind of contributor who can respectfully discuss important topics with a varied group of individuals.

[rcoreyus]

You can find posts supporting just about anything on the internet. If you look for posts by women who care about size, you will find them. If you look for men who have been dumped for better endowed men, you will find them. Doesn't mean it is the majority.

Lots of couples (including my wife and I) use sex toys without any negative impact on the relationship. We have several toys. Her favorite is modest sized, but there is a big one that she likes sometimes - and one that is too big for her to enjoy, and some very small ones for anal. She still prefers intercourse with me to any of the toys - they are just for variety, or if I finish first. She has strong kegal muscles so can be very tight for me. Think about it - if using a dildo made a woman too loose, no one could ever enjoy sex with a woman who had given birth. We have a very varied and enjoyable sex life (except she hates doing oral). Her most intense orgasms are not from a dildo, or intercourse, but from me using fingers. Intense though is not the same as enjoyable.

Yes, a woman should do things to please her man - each should be doing whatever they can to please the other.

I am sorry or the upcoming rant. As with everything, there are good days and there are bad days. Yesterday was a bad day or me. I saw a clip on YouTube called “Men's Size And What We Women Would Like Ya To Do! Part 1”. One of the things that “Women Would Like Us To Do” (according to Twisted Broad), is to agree to do whatever the girl wants in order to please her. To put her first. At first, I was agreeing with this statement (men tend to feel powerful when they are able to please their woman). Then she came to the point where she brought up bringing toys into the bedroom. Specifically (much) larger than average-penis-size dildos.

Now, just before this video I happened upon a thread with the title “Replaced by a dildo” (Google it). In this thread, the OP had brought home a black-porn-star-penis-replica dildo. His wife did not ask for one, he just thought it would be fun. So far so good, right? Nothing wrong with being the generous husband and wanting to experiment a little. It took them 15 minutes to get her hot enough for the dildo to slide in, at which point she could take it almost to the “balls”. This thing was apparently 10 inches long with the associated girth. After she was able to take it all in, her husband started moving the dildo in and out of his wife’s vagina resulting in her having the most intense orgasm ever in 2 minutes flat. Up to that point, the wife in this couple had always said that she was very satisfied by her husband’s 4.5-inch penis and that penis size did not matter (things you would expect any decent wife to say). After the first time with the 10-inch dildo however, she almost always wanted to use it during sex, in order to orgasm. Furthermore, every time her husband entered her after her having used the dildo, he claimed that he did not feel anything from being inside her (a result of her being “too” stretched out).

To top it all off, the thread was full of comments from other husbands that had had the same experience. For one of these other husbands, things had escalated from the dildo to his wife taking a real lover. According to him, his wife had not had sex with him for the past 7 years because she “did not see the point anymore” (pun not intended).

Here is where I started thinking. How far should a guy go to satisfy his woman? Should he bend over backwards? Should he even forsake his own pleasure? Should he just be happy that his wife is happy and S.T.F.U.? Let me try to clarify.

Let us say that a guy have to use a dildo to satisfy his partner because his penis is not big enough (but they do love each other). If using that dildo then makes his partner too loose for him to enjoy intercourse, were does that leave her? Does not the woman also have to do something to please her man? Is it all about her pleasure? Should the guy just be glad he is getting laid at all?

How would women feel if a guy whipped out a fleshlight after having taken care of her orgasm? Or, if the guy asked a girl to wear some kind of dummy breasts over her own breasts, because he is into big breasts?

[Lady Syrinx]

There are lots of people (men and women) in sexless marriages. I am convinced that it is rarely about penis size. In fact I think the percentage of relationship issues due to women worrying about penis size is tiny. It may seem like a good excuse, but anyone who is having trouble with their relationships with women needs to look somewhere else for the source of the problem.

Bingo!! There are many reasons for sexless marriages. I`ll probably lambasted for what for what I`m about to say but I`m ready for it.

My sex life was very different two years ago. We were in a sexless marriage, but not because my husband was too small or because I simply chose hold out. I, like many people, was on an anti-depressant. We went through five years of hell. I was basically non-orgasmic. Not from intercourse, not from digital stimulation, not even orally. Oral was the only thing that got any reaction and it was minimal at best. So yes, sex became a"wifely duty" thing. But it wouldn`t have mattered if I`d been with say Viggo Mortenson (I tend toward the ruggedly handsome type, Orlando Bloom doesn`t quite do it for me.)

Of course my husband blamed himself, size and any number of other reasons. I guess " it`s the meds" can only be believed over a short period. Eventually, I found out that I get along with Welbutrin which has little or no sexual side effects much better than the meds with those issues. So, with the popularity of anti-depressants I wonder what percentage of sexless marriages are attributable to sexual side effects of such meds.

I recently posted the whole story on another thread...."Low Sex Drive? Or Is She Cheating?"

This is not to say that many sexless marriages are not by choice of the female.

[Obelisk]

Well to everyone, I apologize for any rude comments I may have said, to men and women. I know you guys care.

I think my problem is I am having a really hard time believing that a woman will not think a 5" size is small if she's had guys with really large ones, like 8"-9". I know a lot of you say it true, and on the surface I believe that. I honestly don't think I'm tiny. But deep down I think a woman simply is saying that not to make the man feel bad, but she secretly wishes it was bigger.

It's one of those things in my mind, like driving a Ferrari. If all I've ever driven is a Honda Civic in my life, I probably won't really know what it's like to drive one, but if someone lets me borrow a Ferrari for the day I might get to like the power and speed, and will feel lacking going back to the Civic.

So that's what I'm struggling with right now. In my mind, if a woman has experienced larger, going to smaller will not be the same. I know it's probably an irrational thought, but one that's right now seated really really deep in my mind.

Then to make things worse, I started doing a bunch of internet searching, and all these women are coming in saying "yes I've had huge but didn't enjoy it". Just on this very same board, let's count up how many women have come in saying they've had really large but didn't enjoy it. And this is all over the web.

So yeah, now I'm scared that every woman has had huge. So I asked questions on the other boards of guys who are big, and their answer is "well half the time we sleep with women it's uncomfortable for them, but they always ask for it to go all the way in" So what is that? some kind of "pleasure in pain" thing going on there?.

Maybe I am getting biased information on the internet. I'm trying to rationalize this as the "cyberchondriac" who thinks he has a disease, searches for it, and finds a gazillion people with the same affliction. Maybe that's what's happening to me.

Yesterday I was at the mall. Since I've kind of had a falling out with my gf, I was thinking of talking to some girls. I saw one that attracted my attention. Pretty petite girl, maybe 5'1 and like 110lbs? But the though came to my head "crap, she's probably slept with a guy that was 9" so I'm already sunk". So yeah, I cowered out.

Anyway, right now the only silver lining I can see is that I'm actually making some gains in my penile exercises. I might be 6.5" by the end of the year if I can keep working at it. Even that size will give me more confidence to not feel so small.

[rcoreyus]

You are not going to be the best at everything. Some women may prefer a large penis. Some will prefer someone more wealthy, or funny, etc etc (I think I've posted this before). I think your mistake is focusing on this one single issue. Find women who are interested in the things you do well.

[muffin70]

But the though came to my head "crap, she's probably slept with a guy that was 9" so I'm already sunk". So yeah, I cowered out.

so what if she has?? doesn't mean she enjoyed it.... my wife had previous B/F with bigger penises than mine, yet we've ben married 10.5 years.... if it was 'all about the penis size' for her do you think we would have been married that long?

Anyway, right now the only silver lining I can see is that I'm actually making some gains in my penile exercises. I might be 6.5" by the end of the year if I can keep working at it. Even that size will give me more confidence to not feel so small.

it's not the size of your penis that's the problem - it's all in your head. the moment you stop worring about the size of your penis the better things will be.... you don't need to have a big penis to have confidence - the 2 do not go together.

When you meet a woman or think about meeting a woman - you are obviously thinking too far ahead and worring about what your performance in the bedroom will be like..... there are a lot more stages you need to go through before you get to have sex with a woman... e.g getting to know her, getting to like her, kissing...etc... it could be weeks or even months after you meet someone before you get anywhere near to having sex with them - yet that's the first thing you are worrying about?? You are already putting doubt in your mind before you even meet a woman.... that's all psychological

If a woman is more interested in your penis size than they are you as a person, then they are not a 'genuine' woman in my opinion - if a woman can't love you for what / who you are then they are not the person to be with

Take Anna Nicole Smith for example - she married that mega rich old billionare oil dude a few years back... Do you think she married him because she really loved and cared about him?? of course not - it was all about the money to her... who knows, maybe he had a huge penis too LOL!

[Obelisk]

When you meet a woman or think about meeting a woman - you are obviously thinking too far ahead and worring about what your performance in the bedroom will be like.

I think 5 years ahead. I've honestly wanted just one woman in my life. If I just wanted to get layed, then like someone else on this thread said, my size would make no difference, since by the time the woman saw my unit, it's likely that we'd get it on no matter what the woman though of my size. This is also the reason I usually brought the kid thing early in my dates. Is it fair for a woman to develop feelings for me for months and then drop the hammer with the "I don't want kids" idea? What happens then? We break up? I had a girl wanting to slap me because she said "why do you even want to date me if you don't want kids?"

lol man I don't know, trying to be a noble guy is really taking a toll on me.

EDIT:

It's unfortunate I can't post links to other sites, but there is a site I go to where I just read someone post his experience. This is not me BTW, but it could have been something I wrote:

I went through the exact same thing as you did. You say your girlfriend is telling you that your penis is big and you feel so good, but you know she is lying. You also wrote about the fact your girl has been with bigger men. The same thing is true for me. I am 5 1/2. My girl has been with 8"+.

I have been in the exact same position as you. She was always telling me that I'm very good, my penis inside her feels great, etc... We talked about it a lot, because I didn't believe her. One of my best friends was together with her ex, and she told me that this guy was huge, and an amazing sex partner.

well, one night we both got really really really drunk, we were just completely wasted. We had sex and I asked her if I really was that good. She said yes. I kept going on about it and told her that I didn't believe her. After a lot of talking, she finally admitted that I was not that good. I am good at sex, but my penis simply isn't big enough. Other boys were just able to give her a special feeling deep inside of her, which I simply couldn't do because my penis is too small.

This is the moment where I realized that "size doesn't matter" is just something that people say because they pity men who have a small penis. Size does matter. It matters a lot. Skill may be important, but it's not even close to size. I know this now.

This is more than a year ago now, and there isn't a single day that passes where I don't regret asking her this question. I just had to keep going on and on and on, untill she finally admitted it. My life has been a huge disappointment ever since I figured out that no matter what I do, no matter how good I get at sex, I will never be able to give her that special feeling. I have been depressed for more than a year because of this, and it is getting worse instead of better.

I would very much like to give you the advice to not make the same mistake I did. Don't ask her to be honest about this. If she lies to you, don't go on about it. Let her lie. Trust me, you may think that being in doubt is the same as knowing for sure, but it really isn't. Hearing those words out of her mouth was the most hurtful thing in my life, and still is. I can't stop thinking about it and it affects my whole life, especially because I can't seem to make any gains from PE.

DONT make the same mistake I did. Just be happy that you have a girl who cares enough to fake for you. Don't ask her about it ever again.